Seeker, how you do sound like Basil Fawlty..too long on this forum I suspect..listening to all the raving loonies ie:other moronic posters who just dont get it.This is debate and this topic in particular is very contentious and has been since the year dot.

A nice lie down and a cuppa for you.

And Philo,I hope your still counting every post I put up..it is you that does,nt have a life if I remember correctly.
You must have a whole days to wile away counting my posts and adding up the minutes between them.

Yabby, yes I dream of yabby and sheep farming.

Seeker, you sound angry that women have so much control over this. But that's just the way it is until the day that men can get pregnant.

I can see your point that if there’s a way out for women through abortion, there should be a way out for men as well, ot by having a say in the woman’s decision to have an abortion but perhaps by discussing with the woman that he wants no responsibility at all for the child if she decides to have the baby. She can then decide if she wants to raise the child alone or have an abortion. If she decides to have the child then hthe man will have to sign away all his responsibilities as well as his rights, perhaps officially at a lawyer. Would that be possible, by law? I have no idea about that, just making a suggestion for the sake of the discussion.
Would you agree to something like that, so that you would be free of your responsibility and the girl you got pregnant would be free in her decision as well?
I mean, it’s rather barbaric to force a woman to have an abortion or to force her to have a baby she doesn’t want.
Women should remain boss in their own belly in any case.

Celvia

I like the way u think outside the square on many issues.

Thats a good idea, but you probably would not get it past the Senate.
They would say, what about the childs rights, to know its parents, including the Dad, especially for medical background etc.

Children may have a Mum and a Dad but only if they are children.

We are not talking about children here.

Something so simple as the morning after pill is really nothing to do with any man.

Its part of womans personal health for herself.

It should be left that way.

We have already voted on it and the Australian public have enough respect for Women to be able to make up their own minds about their own bodies.

All this carry on about something less than a grain of rice and something thats not a child and never will be unless its born gives me the willys.

I suggest he finds something else to do such as helps the street kids the homeless.

Help the ones that are already here instead of trying to force woman to have more unwanted to add to the population.

I think the stuff should be put in the water in Africa personally.

Oh and to the person who wrote I show I hate kids.

Dont be so childish.

I do hate spoilt brats even though I know its the parents fault rather than the kids.

Our family run schools the education of children on several levels.

You dont do that if you hate kids.

I do however prefer bush and country kids who are still removed from the idea that you dont have to work.

I do not beleive however that a womans place is only to have kids.

We are all free to choose our own lives.

Just like the men are.

End of Story.

Abortion was legalised for a reason, because backyard operators were killing our wives and daughters thru unhygeinic practices and lack of medical knowledge and yet women still took that risk and still they died.This fact overpoweringly forced parliament to legalise it.

NOONE thinks abortion is "OK",and to say otherwise is just plain stupid, and to be honest there are a very small percentage of women who do undergo procedures for 'frivalous' reasons ie:gender selection and birth control, but these are a very small minority of uneducated women,but the overall population of women are responsible women who try to make informed choices.
As was pointed out, this is not an issue for men and quite frankly it does,nt feel right debating this with them.I would never appoint myself moral guardian over your testicles (balls) and how you choose to manage your little swimmers.
This is a womans issue and unless your a woman you just dont have a clue.
As one poster pointed out(Wendy) there are so many children and babies, unwanted and unloved,out there and it would serve your energies and good intentions far better to champion a cause for those already here whom noone wants.Too many unwanted kids, we dont need any more.

“As was pointed out, this is not an issue for men and quite frankly it does,nt feel right debating this with them.I would never appoint myself moral guardian over your testicles (balls) and how you choose to manage your little swimmers.
This is a womans issue and unless your a woman you just dont have a clue.”

No, OZGIRL. This is not just a women’s issue, regardless of attempts to exclude men as evident in the language of your posts. Your reluctance to anonymously debate this with men, shows you preference for continuation of secret women’s business that includes unilateral decisions to terminate a wrongful pregnancy (wrong partner, wrong time). This of course includes the right not to terminate an equally wrongful pregnancy if both partners’ views were to be taken into account.

There are no laws to protect men from unwanted fatherhood. Worse than that, even paternity fraud is relatively easily foisted on men through routine legal obstacles obscuring any notion of justice for them. Unless they walk away immediately, they become responsible by default; otherwise Family Law may not grant a paternity test other than exceptional circumstances. Spare us the sop stories of backyard abortions and dangers of birth – let’s have more abortions, not less.