Hello Dee,
Your list is interesting, but the statements make my point.
They sound just like interlectually handicapped children who have behaviour problems.
(note not all interlectually handicapped children have behaviour problems)

There is an inability to accept for any reason what they want may not be available. They cannot accept that others may want something different than their wishes. They often are simply unable to share.
They can often be impossible to reason with. They just don't understand.

Next time you see an arab spokesman being interviewed notice that many of them do not listen to the question, they go of on a well rehearsed tantrum about how hard done by they have been. There are some noticible exceptions like the Palistinian Anna Asharbe. Probably got that name wrong. They simply don't answer the questions or just give a few words in reply and then launch into a long rambling speach.
If you have ever argued with a handicapped person you recognise the symptoms.

I am not saying they are handicapped to that extent of course but the behaviour traits are definately there.

If the rest of the world could understand this then maybe there would be some hope. It would be a major diplomatic exercise and I don't think that there are many that could undertake it.

Since I have recognised these symptoms and read of their cousin marriage customs I have given up all hope of seeing a solution.
BTW, cousin marriage was done for a good reason, to keep wealth and land within the family. Surprising however as rural people know all about inbreeding of stock. Perhaps they didn't think the same rules applied to people. It is a major failing of the religious hirachy that they did not forbid it.
Cousin marriage was not unheard of in England in the 18th and 19th century, Queen Victoria married her cousin.

Tweedledee: Silly me. Maybe I should have made myself clearer, and asked what exactly you meant by "the utter destruction of Israel" and for reputable and credible citations. When I asked you to name "which Arab leaders have declared that their aim is the utter destruction of Israel" this is what I got:

1)An Israeli propaganda site which took me to the Hamas Charter. No Arab leader within cooee. And if you like I could introduce you to the Likud Charter.
2)I couldn't find the quote on your post. The item however was about the Iranian Prez. I know they're probably all just persons of ME appearance to you, but Iranians are not Arabs. Furthermore, Ahmedenijad's alleged statement about wiping Israel off the map has, you'll be sorry to know, been debunked by Jonathon Steele in 'Lost in translation', The Guardian, 14/6/06.
3)Redneck US site complete with expose 'The Ugly Truth about Al Gore' and photo of neocon/redneck heartthrob, Ann Coulter. Another Iranian (NB not Arab) leader, Rafsanjani, clearly talking about nuclear deterrence.
4)More Iranian Prez. See 2) above.
5)American Zionist site quoting unnamed "senior Hamas leaders" re the Gaza withdrawal being "the beginning of the destruction of the Jewish state". Goes on to talk about "liberation", the resistance fighters' synonym for regime change. Is that what you mean by the "utter destruction of Israel"?

Past this point I find it futile to proceed. I'll leave you with a few points to consider:
a)Israel has been ACTUALLY wiping Palestine off the map since 1948. And is currently doing its best to utterly destroy the new Palestinian Government & Lebanon.
b)Political Zionism thrives on real & imagined anti-Semitism. It would have no rationale for an exclusively Jewish state otherwise.
c)Now instead of wasting my time with sus websites. Please deal with my point about the the Israeli abuser.

Hopefully, a no-man zone from Litany to Israel boarder could postpone Hezbollah & Co prospects substantially.

2bob,

'Thank you for ... you will become a fully fledged halfwit:'

So that will then enable me to personally attack, in simpleton terms, people who disagree with me?

No ... I prefer to remain a full wit... and place my own intrepretation on the things I read rather than accept blindly propaganda.

The incident at Shaba farms resulted in the capture of two Israeli soldiers. The conflict escalated from there into the unsupportable attack on Lebanon and Beirut. Not everybody blames the Palestinians.

Syria doesn't accept the Shaba Farms are part of it's terrirory... .

But you're missing the broader point. Whoever owns it it is not the Israelis! They occupy it. It is not part of Israel, never has been and won't be even though the propagandists say it is.

You'd recognise that.

The Israeli's were forced to withdraw from Lebanon by who and when?
Ahhh answer Hezbollah in 2000 and since Syria claims the area to be Lebanese territory ... well pray enlighten this fullwit, how was that Israeli patrol not an act of aggressive occupation...without using a halfwit's intelligence and use of logic.

But back to the full ramifications of the point you are missing. The conflict in the mid east is nearing it's end stage. It is now all about borders and ownership of disputed territory. You need a much broader view. The largest of Israel's neighbours have clearly defined borders and peace treaties with Israel. With the recent withdrawal of Syria and it becoming a less belligerent neighbour, with Lebanon rising to an attempt at democracy and peace, with the obvious steps towards the creation of a functioning democratic Palestinian State (Sans Arafat, thank all the Gods) and with the West becoming less supportive of all Israeli actions, the writing is on the wall for both the Palestinians and the Israeli's. Peace will arrive with just borders and recompense for refugee families. (And that bloody wall will be dismantled and those land-grabbing illegal settlements in East Jerusleum and the Westbank will be evacuated...with appropriate compensation.)

Keith

ps Obviously many other idiots share my views.

2bob

I admire the fact you reference Palestinian and Arab sites. I hope you do explore them at least a little. I am sure you will soon sus out the propaganda and hope that the content will give you a more balanced view in the future. (I recomend reading Israeli and Western media sites in the same manner.)

Strewth,

You are correct of course. Most people do forget about the peace treaties that Arab neighbours, with UN and US support of course to both their great credit, have wrung out of the Israeli's... Who remembers Hussein of Jordon or Sadat of Egypt?

How about a little historical perspective.

David Ben-Gurion, one of the father founders of Israel and its first Prime Minister, describes Zionist aims in his diary (21 May 1948) as follows, “The Achilles heel of the Arab coalition is the Lebanon. Muslim supremacy in this country is artificial and can easily be overthrown. A Christian State ought to be set up there, with its southern frontier on the river Litani.

"We would sign a treaty of alliance with this State. Thus when we have broken the strength of the Arab Legion and bombed Amman, we could wipe out Trans-Jordan, after that Syria would fall. And if Egypt still dared to make war on us, we would bomb Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo.

"We should thus end the war and would have but paid to Egypt, Assyria and Chaldea on behalf of our ancestors."