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Give ‘babe’ some wriggle room : Comments

By Mirko Bagaric, published 9/5/2006

We are camped somewhere near the base of the moral mountain when it comes to pig farming.

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PF Everybody

No the offer to you as you know was in a form of a donation towards supporting A your book B You personally as you said you would love to help others get involved in free range pork farming. I was supporting you as an advisor.
Ithink there has been some misunderstanding PALE People Against Live exports is a NFP working to educate and bring about changes to live exports" and Intensive farming.
PALE also supports[amoung others Global Australian All Lind Meats.
They supply contacts with overseas people interested to form co joint vetures. All services are free of charge to both Australian farmers and overseas contacts.
Down the track they is a MOU between the investor to donate back to animals welfare.
I hope that has clearned that up for you. Other than donating to your book and supporting you I have no interest in your farm and certainly dont know how you reached that conclusion.
I am very busy and due to leave soon so best wishes
Antj
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 25 November 2006 8:36:04 PM
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"It would seem Farmer, that Yabby is targeting you believing you to be someone else who he has obviously been instruemental in having banned.Well that should make him proud."

Now now Ozgirl, no need to get paranoid lol. As a matter of fact,
which I am sure that Graham would verify, I have never even
recommended the deletion of a single post on OLO!

If I made a mistake it was perhaps to overestimate your abilities,
sorry for that.

Fact is however, that we have had many fantasy posters on the
animal welfare threads. Some of those keep turning up with new
names, telling their sob story in the same predictable way,
in the same style, time after time.

My bulldust alert is switched on, on any animal welfare threads,
unlike some of the other threads. When people talk absolute rubbish
or contradict themselves, I tend to point out the rubbish and
contradictions.

Sorry if I overestimated you Ozgirl, but fact is that fantasy
characters are part of the animal welfare threads and IMHO, Benny
the farmer is yet another one of them.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 25 November 2006 8:55:44 PM
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'Sixty Victorian barristers have formed a panel to act pro bono representing protesters, animal welfare groups and the RSPCA, and plans to target live animal exports, battery chickens and the whale industry. Graham Mckewan says the Animal Protection legislation in Victoria is not adequately enforced. He maintains that the RSPCA is under funded, despite the State Government insisting that it has tripled funding to the Association in recent times. Government's around Australia have agreed to abandon voluntary codes of practise in animal husbandry in favour of enforceable national standards. The National Farmers Federation was not available to comment.
Added to that you have a large team of lawyers and silks all working in their own time five members of PALE regarding alternative exports as well as the above.
Benny is a farmer and I suggested to Graham he call a number I gave him to speak with Ben the last time you posted sch silly comments.
You dont have to be a Rocket Scientist to be able to figure out decent farming and slaughtering here Yabby.
Rosger fletcher I think left school at fourteen he said for memory.
Your right about one thing Yabby and that is the girls on the coast are working to bring about changes and finally the others are seeing this can! be done through a court.
That has been pales biggest problem to convince AA this is the way to go .
Its great stuff and you will see a lot more of it Yabby.
Nicky [if willing then] will assist along with lawyers and RSPCA QLD pale AFIC Small abattoir association to help establish the next stage which will be adopting co joint ventures as Government policy and Austrade reps and MLA and the likes to be promoting it in many countries.
That will be the most importnant step because without alternatives we cant change much.
No we cant stamp out live exports overnight but if we put all these practises together we can honestly say we have a plan to phase it out.
You Yabby would best spend your time working on ALP
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 26 November 2006 6:35:48 AM
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"Benny is a farmer and I suggested to Graham he call a number I gave him to speak with Ben"

Ahh, just as I expected, Benny the farmer is somebody whom
you just happen to know :)

I've told you what the meat industry needs. Large, highly
automated, efficient works, get rid of red tape, get rid
of piles of taxes, get some processors who don't want to
buy sheep for nothing, but will pay farmers a reasonable
price, free up labour laws so that they can get the labour
they need.

Small regional works simply don't have the volumes of
scale to be efficient, with such high labour and compliance
costs. Red tape is so bad in WA, that the Govt run
pig saleyards has just been closed down by another Govt
department, for being unsafe. A new sheep saleyard has
been delayed for a couple of years, it seems by red tape
from yet another Govt dept. Even the Govt is bogged down
by its own red tape! How private enterprise is expected
to function efficiently, with so many bureaucrats running
around policing each other, beats me
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 26 November 2006 9:55:26 AM
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Yabby,

Dont get me wrong, wasnt Farmer supposed to be Ozgirl.?

Now that he/she is gone, your now changing your focus.

Cant seem to make up your mind there Yabby..brain getting a bit fuzzy?

As for your assertion ..'my bulldust alert is switched on..' I wonder how accurate it is at spotting your own?

IMHO Yabby you are suffering from 'oldtimers disease'..
Posted by holyshadow, Sunday, 26 November 2006 1:54:08 PM
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Yabby
Then get cracking and take on your State Government and get some of the 'red tape' fixed- In case you had not noticed there are people posting on here who would care to help you with the task.

Why on earth are you picking on other farmers instead of taking on the WA Government. Explain to the public exacly what you mean in language the readser will understand yabby.

Of course we know a lot of farmers.

Free Ranger was a great loss to this forum. Free Ranger is a x journalist a farmer with great knowledge. Same as the Victorian farmers you got rid of. Same as Benny. A three generation farmer who used to load the ships in his younger days and has owned butcher shops.
There is around another half a dozen who have stopped posting simple because they dont want to get into personal insults like little school children.

If you keep going there will be nobody left for you to talk to Yabby. Anybody with an once of brains wont continue to loose time posting here while you carry on with your personal insults because people are too busy for such nonesense.

Get cracking and set out what it is step by step in WA that needs changing and other will support you.

Have a nice day.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 27 November 2006 5:09:55 AM
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