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The ALP should take on the IR laws : Comments

By Mark Hearn and Grant Michelson, published 20/4/2006

Labor should be bold enough to offer Australia a better way.

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Tao, wont be marching on the 28th.
He/She has a job.
Does not think the boss will like it.
Tao you should cease to post on this thread.
You are embarrasing yourself, with your hypocrisy.
You are an undergraduate smart arse.
You have nothing constructive to contribute.
Capatalism is not evil.
It is the unequal distrabution of wealth that is evil.
My arguement is for a fair share in the wealth created, not the overthrow of democracy and capital.
I am sure Belly would agree with this- not many of us want to wear the Beret. Enjoy your hol's Tao. Is it Cuba or Hayman Island this winter break?
Posted by hedgehog, Monday, 5 June 2006 11:06:36 AM
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Thats what I'm talkin about belly, hedgehog. Don't worry about Tao,
she will be voting labor at the next election... she just dosn't know it yet.
Posted by Sly, Monday, 5 June 2006 4:51:04 PM
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hedgehog, your true colours are showing now.

I suppose you don’t have holidays. And no, I don’t go to university. I work full time.

I suppose you will be marching, and as a union official you’ll be getting paid for it too. No worries for you about losing your job – oh that’s right, only if unions keep shedding members, or the government manages to eliminate unions from the workplace. You’ll have to go back out into the real world and do some work.

Now, lets just clarify it for all the posters here. Will the union leadership be calling a strike? Will the ALP support strike action?

The ALP and unions have known that the Government has wanted to introduce Workchoices or something similar for many years. The previous bills had been before the Senate something like 40 times (and yes it had been opposed by ALP, the Greens and the Democrats). Yet the ALP chose not to make a big deal out of it at the last election so that voters could make the choice at the ballot box. They ought to have been screaming it from the rooftops. But no, they left the voters to be surprised by the introduction of the law, and now they can’t do anything about it until they get elected. Funny about that.

“Capatalism is not evil.
It is the unequal distrabution of wealth that is evil.”

Good on you hedgehog.

Capitalism, and capitalist democracy is nothing but the structure by which the unequal distribution of wealth is maintained.

No Sly, I won’t be voting for the ALP, I’ll be voting informally.
Posted by tao, Monday, 5 June 2006 6:36:25 PM
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Tao,as is the tradition in our Union my wages will be docked on days where we ask all our membership to stop. (not that all our members will stop). A real job? What do you mean? I was a tradesman at 19, had a degree at 24, and would have been a far wealthier and healthier fellow had i spent my career working as an advocate for the otherside.The life of a Union official is not an easy one young Tao.
Your posts continue to demonstrate your non existent life experience.
Workers need friends like you,like a hole in the head.
One last thing.
Labor did not talk about Workchoices prior to the election.First thing you have got right in your posts.
However there was good reason for that.Nobody knew about it you silly,silly Marxist. On the subject of hol's. Of course i have hol's, and i like to go to nice places.However i dont go during one of the peak activities in the struggle.Where are you going,maybe we can advise you of some protest activity in the area.
Posted by hedgehog, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 9:49:19 AM
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Tao your self confedence is missplaced, the ILO has Australia up before it because workchoices breaks rules see ACTU web page worth a read.
All my life I have heard workers and ordinary people brag about voteing for Micky Mouse or informal, never once have I not questioned the ability to think of such people.
Comon ground here for most only a Labor goverment and srong union movement can help.
This weeks NSW ALP conference must be focused on unity and workchoices, unless we run hard on these issues we fail to defend working Australians.
Unlike tao I remain confedent of our victory in both arena,s.
And unlike you tao my bosses feelings about the day of action no matter what boss what job or no job would stop me marching!
And why a day of action? my life is 24/7 letter boxing and action of 100 types
Workers united will never be defeated.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 9:50:55 AM
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Tao has stated that his/her job is recent also the IR laws would mean that s/he would be taking a risk to attend protest on 28 June, therefore I think other posters are being unfair here.

Tao rather than voting informal, please consider voting for an independent you like rather than wasting your vote.

Unrestrained capitalism returns us to a feudal system, Belly's New Labor does nothing to place regulations on an inequitable economy. New Labour in Britain is not going well for Blair right now, although the Brits have even less alternatives than Australia does.

We need some form of unity between small business, unions, the Greens, the Democrats and Labor. Apart from making people easier to sack (which is economically unviable in the long term), Howard has done nothing for small business.

I know that the Greens need to expand their policies, the Democrats still have some excellent politicians and would add some balance to Greens - maybe Labor should consider a coalition.

And may be I'm a dreamer....
Posted by Scout, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:49:36 AM
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