I am wasteing my time, while hedgehog and I are forever on opersite sides of unionism we are both true unionists.
You will not find us turning our backs on a worker not ever.
And I would rather him at my back than you two.
Tao your words are wrong your path betrays workers and you should develope views of your own.
SHONGA my union troubles you but its going to be around a long while and remain a matter of pride for its members.
Your heated directionless posts both of you, could focus on Howards lies the pre workchoices AWA contracts and the very big difference in post workchoices AWA,s
Howard sells to the uninformed or the just plain wrong the view there is no difference.
Pre 20 matters could be included post just 5 but post are imposed and gave up much more.
Just a question tao how can your rehash of failed and rejected communism help todays workers?
From what hidden sorce will you find support?
SHONGA can you really think the AWU has controled the ALP like a hidden luminarty for so long?
Really?

Tao, you wont even participate in a limited stop work for fear of antagonising your boss. Yet like a clown you continue to call people like me weak, for not calling a general strike. Tao there is nothing nasty in my posts. If the cap fits you must wear it. In your case it is the Marxist cap. All talk and no action.
I encourage you to upset your boss and stop for a few hours on the 28th June. Perhaps you may even meet a few activists that encourage you to stop shooting your mouth off and kick in a bit.

Belly,
No mate I don't think, I know, Bill Ludwig, Shorthen and crew, I understand you think they are OK and I don't blame you, because when in the forest you don't tend to notice the trees. Good luck all I have nothing to add.

hedgehog,

As I said, I'll be on holidays - planned a long time ago. In fact I'm leaving tommorow. I therefore haven't had to make the decision.

If unions call a strike, then you can call people who don't go out scabs if you like. Until then, why would workers expect anything to change? Its all pointless unless you have some definitive goal. Getting the piss-weak ALP back in office is not a goal worth losing a job for. And that is all we were told last time. Why will it be any different this time?

Of course you don't have the worry of losing your job. Its a nice cap you wear - calling people weak when you don't even have the same worry as them. If thats not the politics of division I'll eat my hat.

Good luck to you all.

Working people of all countries - Unite!

The thread calls for Labor to take on workchoices, that leads us to IR reform.
And in my view only Labor can truely reform IR but why only Labor to take on workchoices?
I as a worker take it on daily, and would do nothing different if I never had been a unionist.
Handed back the card to that 2 cents an hour mob yesterday, my big home has about $2.000 of product from them but no more made an issue of it in front of a full store
Handed out the last of this weeks news letters made as late as 3 am each week.
Will be at the your rights at work bus on Sunday and with the CFMEU and the bus on Monday.
This in my view is about the way Australians treat each other fair go mate still has meaning for me.
This federal goverment has lost the way ,changeing our internal laws to crawl to a country that will not ever do the same for us.
Yet we are only a chance, no sure bet, to win goverment!
Why? go back to the top of the thread, read every post again, see how we devide ourselves?
SOLIDARITY! at least while the election is on!
I claim no sainthood for my union ,we have slugs always have always will, do you think I could not fill this page with hate mail about the left unions?
NEVER will I do it
Center Unity is my home AWU my union ALP my party.
Good goverment and true reform my dream.
regards all

Tao your ignorance is disturbing. You seek to perpetuate the myth that the life of a Union Official is cushy. Your right wing tendecies leak out. No doubt the Libs will have your vote by the time your 30. You will look back on your radical thoughts and talk (note no action)with a wimsy. Ah those wonderful University days,-we were going to change the world.Enjoy your hol's.