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The ALP should take on the IR laws : Comments

By Mark Hearn and Grant Michelson, published 20/4/2006

Labor should be bold enough to offer Australia a better way.

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Comrades hedgehog, Scout, Sly Belly it seems as we in North Queensland say is "as mad as a Katter" in honour of our "right wing" member for Kennedy, independent, former National Party man, one of belly's right wing mate. My paience is running out I don't tolerate fools easily. Why is it the people with the least knowledge, are the loudest, and the longest on subjects they have a contorted view on.
If belly can't see that the LABOR has lost the last 3 elections because his right wing mates like silly billy have pushed the ALP so far to the right it is now indisguishable to most workers from the Liberal Party, then he is beyond help. We can all rattle on forever with nonsense, however those of us you present logic, substance and intellegence to the discussion, are viewed by this fool as left wing commies, much as the Liberal Party would label us, I say let him talk to himself, he is the only one he can convince. By the way I have no need for a brother, brothers argue and disagree on all sorts of subjects, give me a comrade any day!
Posted by SHONGA, Monday, 22 May 2006 5:16:48 PM
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Tao, you are spot on with your last post #4552, corporations are damaging mankind. Quick change of subject how many trees has mankind chopped down? This is the main cause of global warming,etc. I will in the future plant a large scale tree farm, thats what im talkin about.
The human race is in big trouble and the people need real leaders.

This is very deep stuff. Now back to unions, there must be a place for unions in society and work choices ruins that and the workplace in general.

Shonga, hedgehog,I would bet you are not a Howard voters however most do not confess they are or were. Howard voters in this forum show yourself and explain why. Come on people I voted greens last election because i know were there preferences go and will be voting for labor next election directly. I look forward to your replys.
Posted by Sly, Monday, 22 May 2006 10:50:32 PM
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Sly,
As I mentioned I am and have been an ALP member for decades, however I will not vote Labor in any election unless they choose a candidate that is other than right wing. I will vote as follows, Green, C.E.C, whoever, ALP, Liberal, Independent. I see no reason to reward the ALP for standing candidates who could quite easily stand for the Liberal/National parties, and as such will not reward a party of conservatives.

My politics are progressive, for example instead of National Competition Policy, I would support a National Excellence and Efficiency Policy, a National Transport Policy etc. The coalition and the conservative ALP don't have enough people who can think outside the square, I am also a conservationist, a radical, a progressive thinker, if that is a crime, I am guilty as charged your honour.
Posted by SHONGA, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 9:03:11 AM
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Hey Sly I'm with Shonga on this. Haven't voted Lib since I was 18 and didn't know any better (more years ago than I care to say).

If Labor continues as it has for the past 10 years and again fails to offer a real alternative to Libs, then I will vote Greens, again.

However, for the next Fed election, I would prefer the Libs to win. Why? Because the sh*t is going to hit the fan and I would rather it happen when the Libs are still in power and have to take responsibility for their anti-human pro-big business policies.

Cheers, comrades!
Posted by Scout, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 9:49:56 AM
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shonga and scott i fully agree with you both but this coalition has to go, Sooner the better and the ALP needs to wake up to themselves
which they are slowly doing. cheers
Posted by Sly, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:09:38 AM
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SHONGA think on this while denagrating me, you claim voters voted conservative because Labor is right wing?
Do not try to say that is not what you are saying! you are not my brother I have a few all could think that out better.
We lost elections the left also claim because voters got conned or did not think right.
Why waste my time?right wing Labor is and has been our only path to power for years.
Labor will return to goverment in the next two elections, IT could be 2007 but we seem stricken by fear to remove Kim Beazley and put Bill Shorten in, in your view another landslide to Howard.
Care to bet?care to tell me who amung the left we should put in charge?
Debate me mate! if you intend to insult me and play verbal tennis may I advise to you put some strings in your racket?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 4:24:44 PM
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