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The ALP should take on the IR laws : Comments

By Mark Hearn and Grant Michelson, published 20/4/2006

Labor should be bold enough to offer Australia a better way.

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Belly , seen as you nominate a bloke not even in Parliament i will do the same. Greg Combet. Happy to debate the relative bona fides of the two.
Posted by hedgehog, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 5:33:10 PM
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Belly,
Mate you are becoming incomrehencible, if this is what your represetation is like for your members, all I can say is God help them. I understand you are a good and kindhearted bloke, but please don't insult our intellegence with your vomit, if you remain ignorant to reality, that's fine with me, however reality is reality, and you are nowhere near it mate, honestly, with regards to politics you don't know a pineapple from a banana, I really feel embarresed for you, please give it away while you're behind.
Posted by SHONGA, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 7:33:14 PM
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SHONGA you must understand your views mean nothing to me I have been able to put my views of you away and it will stay that way.
Hedghog, yes he would be first pick! yes before Bill but he said no! often and in person.
Do you agree many vote without a grain of knowledge about politics?[SHONGA you vote donnt you?]
And those may vote for Bill after all 9% now want him in parlement and leading what is it 32% want Gillard? would you agree under our system she can never lead? so 32% want some one who can not have the job.
Some say we should not have a union leader, Bob Hawk? hardly a failure surely.
My wants are different than yours my path to fairness at work, an end to kids in ofshore prison , saying sorry but get of your bottom and help us help you is Labor right, tell me who from that group would you pick?
And Kim do you truely feel ok about putting workers rights on his head come the election? can you think he will win?
And my list is long often shared by the left after all some great things come from all sides only Labor in power answers my prayers Howard is my nightmare.
With every inch of my being I KNOW Labor will not under any flag give me or you all we want but it must give us an election victory that comes only from a majority vote.
SHONGA end your personal insults this trade union oficial never takes a backward step but your path leads needlessly away from debate.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 6:10:44 PM
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Belly, Howard is a nightmare that is for sure.
Posted by Sly, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 6:24:41 PM
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Belly,
As I have stated many times, you are in my humble opinion a good egg, in a bad basket, the fact that you are unable to spell Hawke, Labor's most successful PM does not deter me from that opinion. I will repeat for you "You are are bloody good bloke" it is sad that you will settle for second best, i.e. a right wing Labor Government, which is really only a duplication of the right wing Howard government, only at a slower pace. Who gave us E.B.A's? right wing Keating!

I respect your right to differ in opinion from me Belly, the difference between us is, I will fight until my last drop of blood for you to retain that opinion, whereas the right only care about the well to do, which by the way is not the ordinary Australian on a median income of $27,700 p.a. As a union official, well a pretend union anyway, you would be on more than that, which in your particular case I don't begrudge you, as you do fight for your members. If only you could experience being employed by a "real" union, I am sure it would open a whole new world for you.

In conclusion mate, I will vote as I have stated, because I don't reward failure, and the ALP have failed to connect with low and middle income Australia, which is why we have been in oppisition for a decade. If and when the federal/state ALP gets serious about working people, I will again allocate my first preference to them, at the moment they represent a second string Howard Government.
Posted by SHONGA, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 9:06:34 PM
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Seems some of my posts are being deleted my union is as good as any, its members can read and write and make personal choices.
Workchoices is the enemy of all who work, no other path exists to remove workchoices other than a Labor goverment.
No other path to a Labor goverment exists than one that brings votes from a majority of voters.
Labor will take on workchoices or is unfit to be in the house.
My income is better than that you quote but not as high as you think, my personal spending on a news letter is a third of my income that is a workers news letter I pay for weekly, those who read it ask for it if its not about.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 25 May 2006 5:25:04 PM
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