Dee,

Well said. I recall last year, in response to the (it turns out false) claim that Corby supporters had sent a dangerous powder by mail to the Indonesian Embassy in Canberra, Howard said: "How would Australians feel if they harmed our embassy?" This shows what a sop our government is to the Jakarta lobby. Firstly, there was no biological attack on the Indonesian Embassy in Canberra (it was probably just a ploy to get Corby supporters off the govt's back), and secondly, the Indonesians had just bombed our embassy in Jakarta 9 months earlier killing a number of local staff. Schapelle's supporters calling for a boycott of Bali is about as terrorist we are ever get in Australia.

Coyote - Brave posting there with your own PAPUA MERDEKA .... but I feel that you will soon be drowned in offal and pig swill by that Ora with an infected mouth.

This little boy has lost his grip on history and seems to forget most, but then again what else could a cretin, rather than a savant, do except spew forth lies and calumny - East Timor was invaded and the indonesians massacred almost a third of the population there - but without their superior numbers, their guns and weaponry, they run and cringe like mongrel dogs after a flogging, but isn't that the way of all cowards?

If you view any of his falacious postings, you will of course note that his drool has far outreached his miniscule brain cell, but come to reflect on that, I feel if he had another brain cell it would be so terribly lonely - fancy prattling on in suedo German to Ludwig and then call him "mate" and really I do wonder where the AK47's come from must be the new issue from the Australian Army ....

And DEE
sorry there my friend, but you would be far better off argueing points with Weizenbaum's Eliza. As for any strong argument you put up - any gibbering monkey would denigrate your point and ....

Well go here http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza-cgi-bin/eliza_script and enter "I feel hated"

Don't you feel better already?

K. -

'Do you often feel hated?'

only since the Australian govt. allowed lunatic Islamic bigots to enter Australia and tell us how much they hate us and how superior their 'culture' is - whilst living off Australian taxpayers and fighting tooth and nail to stay here.

Its a confusing world for anyone with rational thought processes.

Interesting to read the ramblings of PTBI, typical of most Indonesians who can't think for themselves and toe the State line which has been preached to them in a Mosque by some Mullah. The trouble is most have a Chip on their shoulder, they are Jealous of the way we can think for ourselves with out looking over our shoulder, the way we do not have to bribe or pay a kickback to every other official to get something done, our high standard of living, the wide open spaces we live in etc etc.
I do agree with some thing he said, we are letting to many of those stinking disease ridden boats & crew through.It is time the Australian Navy was given permission to blow these boats out of the water instead of wasting time & money by catching them & bring them back to the mainland where they might infect some one.

PTBI, why do you resort to offensive stuff, at the first sign of disagreement? Ever heard of tact and decency or at least neutrality?

Who has the sensitivity of a small child?

We started off with a great deal of agreement. I picked you up on one point of debate.

If you are going to get rankly stupid with people over one disagreement when there is predominant agreement then you are a fool indeed, no two ways about it.

Now you obviously need to go take a cold shower.

Can’t you see PTBI that on this national forum – the most prominent political/socio-economic forum in Australia, which can be accessed worldwide, that tact and decency are rather important. You, as the sole representative of Indonesia really NEEDS to keep it tactful, no matter how rough some of us Aussies might get. You are an ambassador for your country. You cannot afford to lose the plot and get deliberately offensive.

You don’t know who you are offending, or who is reading this stuff.

Do your country and your own cause a favour and practice diplomacy.

Again, I agree with a lot of what you have to say. So for goodness sake don’t offside those who agree with you, or those who disagree and wish to hold sensible debate with you.