If I was a highly articulate person who, for some perverse reason, wanted to stir up anti-Indonesian sentiment in Australia, I would find a popular Australian website with a comments forum.

Next, I would give myself some slightly provocative and possibly misleading tag (similar to chainsmoker-do you assume cigarettes or trout?).

Then I would set about using a mixture of facts, fantasy and probably a bit of name-calling to get people to really dislike me. I would probably enjoy watching the results of my posts.

If I was a real whiz with language nobody would notice when I slip out of character from time to time.

PTBI, if I could get my Australian students near an approximation of your mastery of English spelling, grammar and punctuation, not to mention your vocabulary, I would have done very well indeed. And such rapid progress over a few posts. Truly amazing.

@dee:

How dare you blame the whole Indonesian people for terrorist incidents, while almost all the victims of such attacks are Indonesians themselves? You totally insult our govt and police who worked hard to put most of the perpetrators of these crimes in jail and kill some of them, under the debilitating constraints put by the new democratic system.

Meanwhile, the barbaric Papuan separatists and their supporters who organised cruel terrorist violence on Indonesian citizens from Australia remains free to organise more violence!

@Kekkendika:

LOL, your babbling is becoming more cryptic and incoherent. I guess you are upset that Indonesians don't consider Australia as "superior", while our govt's complaints received direct reply from Australian govt by way of changing the immigration law and sending head of DFAT to make necessary apologies.

@I am Australian:

LOL, your anti-Islamic hatred is irrelevant to the topic since Indonesia is a secular state based on Pancasila, with the second-largest Christian population in Asia. Indonesians enjoyed much personal freedoms as people in Western countries. Here's a link showing the easy-going lifestyle of Indonesian girls:

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8772&st=2300

BTW I suggest you shed your anti-Islamic religious hatred. That kind of religious hate would only drive more Muslims into the hand of bin Laden. Your attitude is more fit for mediaeval Crusades times than the 21st century.

@Ludwig:
Entspannen Sie sich, mein Freund. If Australians decided to bash Indonesia, then inevitably there will be not-too-friendly Indonesian response. Every action will cause a reaction, that is just law of nature.

@chainsmoker:
Thanks, buddy. Indonesians are becoming very fluent in English languages nowadays.

@Kekkendika:

LOL, Indonesia "killed one-third" of East Timorese population? What a joke. Actually, between 1974 and 2000, East Timorese population nearly doubled thanks to healthcare improvements and lower infant mortality rate under Indonesian supervision. We must be so bad in "genocide" if the "target population" actually doubled instead of being reduced.

PTBI - 'How dare you blame the whole Indonesian people for terrorist incidents ..'

I am merely following your own example. How dare you blame the whole Australian people for the mistreatment of aboriginals? In almost every post you have made on this forum, you have accused Australians of 'genocide' etc etc. How does it feel to be accused of something you had no part in? I see you are angry - good. Your indignation may lead to rethinking your absurd accusations against Australians - although I doubt it.

Chainsmoker - 'If I was a real whiz with language nobody would notice when I slip out of character from time to time ..'

I noticed.

“If Australians decided to bash Indonesia, then inevitably there will be not-too-friendly Indonesian response. Every action will cause a reaction, that is just law of nature.”

In other words, if you complain about heavy treatment then it is alright to dish out heavy treatment. Become what you are complaining about! Brilliant tactics!

Just about as brilliant as your notion that it is fine for Indonesia to meddle in Australia’s affairs, but it completely unacceptable for Australia to have any influence in Indonesian affairs.

It leaves me wondering whether you are just a poor communicator (which seems unlikely given your knowledge and willingness to keep on debating on this forum) or whether you do in fact have the motive of stirring up conflict as Chainsmoker suggests.

Your bizarre use of German achieves only one thing; to make you seem very Hitlerian.

Actually, it doesn’t leave me wondering at all. Your intentions are clear.

@dee:

LOL, are you trying to compare the despicable genocide you committed on Aborigines with the few terrorist incidents in Indonesia? Wow, you are losing the plot, you must be getting so desperate in face of my disclosures of truth.

There is completely nothing similar between the two cases. Your genocide and theft-of-land is an official Australian government policy which solely victimised Aborigines. Meanwhile, terrorist incidents were committed by a deranged minority who victimised mostly Indonesians. You whites still live in land stolen from Aborigines who never received any compensation or even any apology, and who've had their culture irrepairably devastated by whites, no whites were ever prosecuted for the genocides they committed. By contrast, Indonesian govt and police worked hard to arrest or kill terrorists under constraints placed by democracy.

As johnj said, Australia has too dark dark history of human rights abuses, to try to defend Australia is to be either clinically biased and definately stupid. Your despicable denial of responsibility is an unsustainable attempt to justify the white genocide on Aborigines after I destroyed your previous Hitlerite excuses about whites being superior from Aborigines.

@Ludwig:

LOL, so if Australians bash Indonesia, then Indonesia cannot respond? Hmm.. clearly you are not mature and fair as I previously thought. I am disappointed as I had higher expectations from you.

I think all Indonesia-bashing done by Australians in the past years deprived your country from any right to ask for respect from Indonesia. Face the fact: Indonesia don't need your "goodwill" at all, while Australia clearly need our "goodwill" as your PM Howard said.