@dee:

"I cant recall the last time an Australian mob attacked Communists and murdered them. I can't recall the last time ethnic women were gang raped by Australian men either."

LOL, have commies killed Australians of different ideologies, have they tried to violently overthrow Australian govt. And remember, 28% of Australian women were sexually abused by older people during childhood. What perverts Australians are!
http://www.secasa.com.au/index.php/family/11/96

"Are you suggesting that we elevate aboriginals on a racial basis to positions they have not earned or been elected to? BTW, has Indonesia had an East Timorese PM? Or a PM from WNG?"

LOL, of course racist genocidal whites will never vote for Aboriginal politicians. And no, position of prime minister do not exist in Indonesia. We have had dozens of Papuan cabinet ministers, generals, and hundreds of Papuan national and regional parliamentarians.

"Are you suggesting that we hand the position to the unelected daughter of some VIP? Isnt that how Megawati became leader?"

LOL, what a moronic Asian-hater. Megawati and all female Asian leaders you mentioned got elected to power. Stupid white dummy, think you are better than us Asians, don't you? What a racist joke you are.

@ludwig:

LOL, none of your excuses can deny the fact that Indonesia is uber-better compared with the genocidal assault on Aborigines by whites.

If you truly despise your race's mistreatment of Aborigines and theft of Aboriginal land, then you will return stolen-land Australia to them and compensate them for all their pain.

RETURN AUSTRALIA TO ABORIGINES NOW!!

@Kekendika:

LOL, why are scavenging from the biggest trash-bin in the world aka the internet? Good trash scavenger, but your stench is horrible..

PTBI - you have given unassailable proof of what a joke you *yourself* are by constantly resorting to juvenile ignorance and racial insults when you cant find a logical response.

Go away and grow up. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about - otherwise you wouldnt respond to everything with a stupid racist diatribe. FYI, there are several aboriginal and part-aboriginal politicians in Australia - the National President of the Labor Party is an Australian Aboriginal - and Australia actually has female politians plus a few female state premiers in the past- so perhaps you should do some research before you make more idiot comments.

"what a moronic Asian-hater". You are the obvious moron in this case. The observation that female leaders in Asia are the widows/daughters of dead/assassinated male leaders is a plain fact, whether or not they were elected. But of course anyone who states a fact you dont like must be an 'Asian -hater'. Another likely possibility is that you have no idea of the meaning of the concept 'succeeding on ones own merit'. Since Indonesia is high on the list of corrupt countries, that is the likeliest explanation for your sheer ignorance.

"Stupid white dummy, think you are better than us Asians, don't you? What a racist joke you are."

Let's study that comment in all its sheer childish stupidity and moronic ignorance. For the sake of the reputation of Indonesians - if you are in Australia, please go home. If you are in Indonesia, please stay there. The only 'racist' on this forum is you. Do you find it hard to walk with that huge chip on your shoulder? Or do you block it out by dreaming of blonde hair and boobs?

Well you just go on repeating the same old simpleton and extremist responses PTBI and making no attempt to advance the discussion.

That’s it for me. Good riddance

@dee:

LOL, resorting to infantile insults when you are trapped without exit.

You insults Asians by accusing the multitudes of female leaders we've had as "unelected". I've shown the reality that they are all elected to office. You are "pwned". If they were family of previous leaders, what is wrong with that? USA President Bush is the son of previous US president Bush Sr.

Again, you are racistly demeaning Asians to avoid facing the reality of treatment of women in Australia, that 28% of Australian women are sexually-abused when they're little girls.

@ludwig:

Not extremist, but realistic and humanistic :-D

Dee – a few more facts about Indonesian Girl Children who are not quite prostitutes yet – just beggars and street people – Please note of course that Australia does not need multi million packages to rectify the work of pimps and Orang-o-tangs who really should be concentrating their efforts to improve their own country, but are so mentally deficient, that their only response is to disparage more advanced countries – a bit like biting the extended hands of aid like mongrel dogs

“….. street children have become a common sight at most major intersections in Indonesia’s large cities. They sing and dance or strum on a battered guitar—and then make beelines for taxis or expensive cars to beg.
On 1 November 2000, the Asian Development Bank (ADB) launched its Japan Fund for Poverty Reduction with a US$1 million project in Indonesia to help young female street children, who are often victims of sexual abuse and child prostitution

A 1999 ADB survey of 12 Indonesian cities found that girls make up 20 percent of Indonesia’s estimated 170,000 street children—and that programs for street children have concentrated on boys.”
http://www.adb.org/Documents/Periodicals/ADB_Review/2001/vol33_1/street_girls.asp

If successful, the Yogyakarta pilot scheme will be replicated in other urban centers. It will:
establish counseling programs for female street children who are either at risk of, or who have experienced, sexual abuse;
evaluate different approaches to prevention and rehabilitation; and
develop culturally acceptable, cost-effective, and sustainable programs to help the government, NGOs, and social workers address the needs of nearly 34,000 female street children.
http://www.adb.org/Documents/News/2000/nr2000117.asp
New Approaches in Indonesia

Vitamin A deficiency, iodine deficiency disorders, and iron deficiency anemia are common problems in Indonesia. These micronutrient deficiencies contribute to disease, mortality, growth retardation, brain damage, and reduced cognitive and working capacity among children and adults. That puts a severe strain on education and health systems, lowers productivity, and raises levels of sustained poverty. In urban slum areas, the prevalence of underweight children is especially high, and anemia rates among young children remain alarmingly high.
ADB to Pilot Food Fortification Among Indonesia's Urban Poor
http://www.adb.org/Documents/News/2005/nr2005034.asp

Dee – again the complicity of the Indonesian Military bastardry in Aceh – so what hope have simple Melanesians in West Papua got?
In addition, Exxon Mobile Corp.'s operation in Aceh drew criticism this past week for allegedly violating human rights of villagers near major gas fields in the province. A U.S. District Judge, Louis Oberdorfer, granted a lawsuit by Washington-based advocacy group International Labor Rights Fund to sue the oil giant over the rape and torture of local Acehnese, allegedly perpetrated by Indonesian Military troops guarding the company's facilities.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp?fileid=20060313.C01
Below are a few links the Orang-o-tang will not show you – I wonder why? BUT -you know - and I know
Indonesia

Police Violence and the Beginnings of Impunity in East Timor
http://hrw.org/reports/2006/easttimor0406/

Allow Independent Monitors Access to Area
Escalating violence in Papua’s provincial capital should be investigated by an independent commission, Human Rights Watch said today
Reports indicate that BRIMOB (Brigade Mobile, Indonesian riot police) officers used tear gas, and some eyewitnesses say that they saw the police open fire on the crowd of unarmed demonstrators. One of those wounded is a journalist from the Indonesian newspaper Tempo. Unverified reports indicate he was beaten by police officers while trying to film the demonstration. (different story from the Orangotang though)
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/03/17/indone13017.htm

Indonesia: U.S. Aid to Corrupt TNI Risks More Rights Abuses
The Indonesian military has long been responsible for grave abuses -- including extrajudicial executions, torture, and arbitrary detention -- in conflict areas such as Aceh and Papua, as well as a range of serious abuses across the country. But, military personnel of all ranks have largely been above the law.
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/03/14/indone12926.htm

Indonesia: Keep Pressure on Abusive Army
“Because President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono was elected democratically, many now wrongly believe that Indonesia’s military has been reformed,” said Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch. “But it continues to be responsible for routine abuses, has failed to address past crimes and remains beyond effective civilian control.”
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/10/11/indone11859.htm

Need any more be said – I do not think so – but wait for the rebuff from the Orang gille