BD, perhaps you should put down the holy book for once in your life and learn what nature and science can teach us about sex, sexual attraction, morality etc.

Pair bonding, or marriage as you like to call it, evolved in ours as well as a number of species, where lots of resources are required to raise the offspring. Sex is one of the reasons why males stick around to provide those resources. In today's society, where females can earn their own resources, males are less required, thus the higher divorce rate etc, no magic in any of this, all quite logical.

We know that levels of certain fetal hormone levels at certain times of fetal brain development, affect sexual inclination later in life.
You are not turned on by women due to freewill, but by those innate tendencies. Similarly homosexuals have innate feelings, due to mother nature herself. You cannot condem people for what nature herself created, holy book or not.

Morality is grounded in biology, but is basically a set of subjective rules that we agree on, so that we can live in harmony as a social species. Understanding nature and our role in the world will teach us far more about these things then so called holy books written in primitive times ever will.

We live in a fallen world. A world that is falling apart because it decided to move away from God.

God's creation was shown in Genesis in two forms:

1. purity, perfection, and total intimate relationship with one another and with God

2. sin, fear, and shame - punishment enters the world due to man's desobedience.

We live in that latter state. We are disconnected from God's intimacy and purity. But God provided a way out because as a father He loves us dearly. He sent His Son to take way that sin and bring us back to Himself to enjoy that pure relationship for ever as He first intended.

So to judge God and His creation on humanistic observations is laughable. Man's imperfection is there only to point at perfection: God Himself. Good and bad are mutually interdependent. Good cannot exist or make sense without the bad.

The bible is there mostly to work as a mirror to our foolishness. King Solomon is described in the bible as the wisest man than ever lived. His debauchery is but an illustration of where we can end up when we exclude God and rely on "self" for our moral constructs.

Not surprising, God ways are a stumbling block to the "lost" because they do not understand God's mind and intentionality for His creation.

In Jesus, we (Christians) have that broken link (sin) with the creator restored. We communicate with the divine through an open line enabled by Him through the Holy Spirit that indwells in us when we are reborn in Christ.

So how can we explain God's mind and plans for His creation to the outside world? A world that is enjoying foolishness construed as wisdom. A world that is dead in its transgressions, decisively lost by its stubbornness to remain on the outside of God's defined boundaries.

All we can do is point them back to Jesus.

Lyn

I researched sex ed classes presented by Interrelate, which most schools use these days and wrote this six years ago: http://www.vaginaverite.com/duwrose/rosefaqs.html then a couple of years ago, I wrote an article for Online Opinion three years ago: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=806

An overhaul of Sex ed in australia has been a crusade for me, but no one was prepared to listen then...as there are none so blind as those who will not see. I wish you GOOD LUCK and if there's anything I can ever say or do to help, do contact me.

Sheesh Coach, you have no idea how many times that religious nuts have predicted the end of the world as we know it. Invariably
they were wrong, as history shows. So it looks like you will be just another statistic.

If there is any danger to the world, its in fact caused by religious
fanatics in the US, Iran and Israel, all wanting to destroy each other, using nukes to achieve it.

As they say, religion is the opium of the masses. You certainly seem to have been floating on something, when you wrote that post :)

What does genesis say sin is? It is eating of the forbidden fruit. What is the forbidden fruit? It is the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Partaking in this knowledge of good and evil, as articulated in the above christian sexualities, is indeed the embodiement of biblical sin. The message of genesis and indeed jesus is the transcendence from sin, guilt and materialistc, egoic and dysfunctional consciousness.

This the bible shares with all the ancient religions of the world who wholesomely accept human sexuality. It is the modern christians who have imposed notions of individual morality in order for the materialistic post- constantine state to control the populations of the Roman empire.

Break free of sin and the illusions of this world. This does not mean bestiality or pedophilia, the paths that B D is so terrified of falling down if his tightly held knowledge of good and evil was unravelled. It just means being at ease with yourself and others without this "buying used goods" hang-up or misinformation about how psychologically tortured those are who did not save their virginty until marriage.

Tell the truth to young adults, not scare them with falseties. Support them to be who they are with integrity, dont tell them they are dirty and guilty if they discover their own sexuality, whatever it is. The deviate homosexuals are a bit tormented, but that is by the intolerence of the normal adherents of the knowledge of good and evil. Those gay folks that build up their defences from rednecks seem to be as happy as anyone else. Indeed the Gay Mardi-Grass is a much happier affair, despite dealing with heavy issues of HIVAIDS and homosexual persecution, than any modern church I have seen including the somewhat sheep like joy of hillsong church and the pentacostals.

Coach, sure your not BD in drag. You don't sin eh coach, perfection in drag. I'd like to see you reborn in christ, that would be a miracle, but you'd have to explain the homosexual bit, he's a bloke isn't he.

Renee “fearful religious”, I was referring to monotheists fear of giving people power over their lives in responsible freedom. We all know how much christians are into sex, you see it in the churches, courts and in the broken lives throughout the world.

What is, “disrespectful treatment of our sexual selves.” Morals are a religious concept, not physiological, psychological or biological, they are failed concepts that cause more harm than good.