mangotreeone1: You have really shown us your 1.Knowledge of history, 2. Knowledge of religion, 3.Knowledge of mankind. I have never read anything quite like this before, I am almost speechless with wonder of your marvellous intellect. To top it off you use such wonderful words, vocabulary and grammar. Now don't get carried away but this could be your best post ever. This could even be the highlight of your entire life. As you will never better this effort I think you should retire and rest on your laurels. Please try , though after your latest post it will be most difficult, to remain humble. numbat

Numbat, you are able to read the sign language,

I wis I cud Rite as gud as yu.

I hav yet to reed yor verson of th Bibal thats wy I hav kno intelegans,

Numbat wake up to your self, you are a just another writer trying your best to put your opinion across, at the end of the day it is the opinion that is believable thats succeeds, one day you may succeed
I sent a message you recieved it, I succeeded. because you attacked me as a person, as you proclaim to be "master of english" why not explain, your anger in simple words ,so a dum dum can understand,

I suppose there is a bit of Nephilim mystery creeping in here.
Perhaps they were aliens really peed off.
OO dear o me. Fire and Brimstone was actually an alien space craft attacking the evil indulgence of Man kind! Hitler was the ships captain-Lenin was First officer and Stalin was third in command of the Nephilim Ideological craft. Muhammad must have been the ships Engineering officer.The rest of the crew are to vast to mention.
Good Novel in there somewhere. But that is not what happened in history.

Francis, there is very little difference between cannonites and cannanites and whats transpired with either group. Their one and the same, as Mangotree points out. If you don't know the difference, then you have no understanding of your belief. Thats understandable, considering those knowing the true history and veracity of monotheists, dismiss it as a violent delusion and path of the ignorant and unknowing.

Proof of prayer, is well documented. During wars, conflicts and disagreements in the history of the world, since monotheistic invasion, your left with a real understanding of what prayer does. During the first and second world wars, there would've been hundreds of millions of people praying for war to not happen or to end. Result, total destruction of Europe and other parts of the world. The results are the same for all conflicts, introduce prayer and war escalates.

Then we have the billions who have prayed for gods help when in dire straits. Results no help just more pain. Put together the amount of people who pray for those in hospitals, results, death and rarely survival. In all the years that I've been helping those passing from this world, I have yet to see a positive result from prayer. Yet I have seen many conflicts and sadness when religion and pray are pushed onto someone by ignorant relatives and the church.

You need to provide verifiable proof of the power or prayer in doing good, in light of the proof of prayer doing nothing, but contributing to a worsening situation for all.

Fools are only found in religion, as can be seen by world history and what's occurred since the coming of monotheistics. You may also note, the areas of the world that've always caused the most trouble, are those areas where monotheistics is at the forefront of control. Pick any country thats in the grip of religion and you have the results. Name one that isn't a basket case of inter religious fighting, crime and corruption. Its easy to see where all the fools are, in countries in the grip of religion.

The Alchemist......you still haven't identified what "cannonite blood is".....Mango Tree is of no use whatsoever (as clear as mud). You cited, in your previous mess "genetic testing" yet you did not cite your sources......You must try harder. You say that there is very little difference between "cannonites" and "cannanites".....yet, you imply there is a difference (even though small)....are you referring to the Canaanites? My belief has nothing to do with "cannonites", "cannanites" "canaanites" or any other "ites" so quit trying to be so superior. the rest of your dribble is as nonsensical as the previous.

Francis.... I'm placing you on top of the list of 'colorful speakers' along with Proud To Be Indonesian :) 'Dribble..Nonsensical' ? my my...

I note you have quite strong 'Catholic' opinions, and some of your observations about Luther etc, are spot on. (Anti Jewish etc)

But I am detecting a mild case of 'plank and speck' here.. I don't think the fact that Luther went off the rails toward the end of his life, detracts from the primary contribution he made to freeing the world of the 'ecclesiastical domination' of the "Roman" Catholic church.

As long as the Church 'Catholic' remains true to its foundations, and does not elevate any man to 'infallability' such as with the Pope, we are on fairly safe ground. The obvious problem with infallible Popes is 'Bad Pope, bad doctrine' such as the idea of fund-raising through the selling of indulgences, (though I've heard it re-stated with all seriousness by modern Catholics as 'The Sacrement of Indulgence').
Mary-olatry and reinterpreting scripture to 'fit' the idea of a Mary who never had other children, do to a Pope having decided thus... etc..
That someone would actually defend this abominable doctrine in 2005/6
blew my mind. A good read of Pauls letter to the Galatians and Romans should provide adequate medication for this illness.

Feel free to correct any misunderstanding of Roman Catholic doctrine in my post as u see fit. I welcome it. (Saves me reading)

Anyway, I've not done so prior to this, but "welcome to OLO" :)
we need competing viewpoints, and they all add to the mix and freshness of this OLO experience
Cheers