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Sharia law and Australia : Comments

By Sebastian De Brennan, published 22/3/2006

It is only a matter of time before Sharia law is proposed as a legitimate means of resolving disputes as they arise between Islamic Australians.

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Alchemist,

You're obviously not prepared to state what you mean by "cannonites".....I thought I asked you a simple question! Nor, it seems, are you prepared to cite your genetic references for your statement that "Recent genetic testing has shown that Jew, Arab and Christians all carry cannonite blood". I wonder why. Did you read this somewhere or did you invent it? You really should cite your sources you know. What is cannonite blood. You just say "read a bit".....share the names of the books you've read and of the scientific journals that you have read so that I may "read a bit".
Posted by Francis, Thursday, 13 April 2006 3:01:14 PM
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Google seems to think that cannonite is a crystalline mineral containing bismuth. Bismuth content in human blood is negligible.

Am I missing something here?

There is genetic and linguistic evidence that Arabs and European or Middle East Jews are closely related, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic (though the genetic link may be tenuous in some Jewish populations in Africa, the Americas and eastern Asia).

There is limited evidence that genetic makeup may affect individuals' propensity to be strongly religious, mildly religious or irreligious (although not biassed towards any specific religion) but if you look at the varying position of religious conviction in the nations of the world, genetics can only be a tiny influence, http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/rel_chu_att

There is more genetic variability between individuals of one human race than in average genetic makeup from one race to another. (In other words the neighbour who looks pretty much like you may be more genetically different than the headscarfed Lebanese girls or that black guy from Sudan whom you might see in the street or the Chinese, Indian or Thai staff you saw in a local restaurant the other evening.)
Posted by MikeM, Thursday, 13 April 2006 6:34:30 PM
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Numbat I have a Christian upbringing behind me, having travelled the road you now travel, allows me to understand where you come from, that road is sign posted , the signs point in every direction. the difference between you and I is ,I do not believe in justified killing of other human beings, you do, thats the same as nailing Jesus to the cross, I dont have to be a member of a God Club to be close to Jesus, If I was a Muslim you would call me a terrorist, if I was a member of your God Club[ you would say I was a heretic, that says you are like those people who two thousand years ago today screamed crucify him, everytime you attack another human being who are not members of your God Club you hammer the nails through Christs hands and feet, today is the day you should put yourself on the cross feel the pain of the nails being driven home, and ask your self what did Jesus really mean when he said "forgive them father they know not what they do" that message was for you and me and everyone else in this world . who "believe" in what they do, you must know the people Jesus mixed with during his life on earth were Arabs and Jews, he never banned Arabs from attenting his spiritual gatherings, so why do you hate Muslims? mangotree
Posted by mangotreeone1, Friday, 14 April 2006 6:07:42 AM
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Francis, I understand how hard it is for monotheists to research and learn outside their delusion. Thought you may have the intelligence to pick up my spelling mistake. Cannonites, instead of cannanites, or canaanites.

As Mangotree says, they are basically the same. Cannonites is the name used by Marxists to describe their religious foes. The caananites, are supposed to have invented the cabalah. The Egyptians invented the sephiroth, and the Jewish invented the path and arrange of the tree of life. Study real theological and monotheistic history, not just historically flawed and plagiarised false books, (bible) or you'll remain in the dark regarding true history.

We could spell it Canaanites, whom god ordered destroyed, another great act of love and compassion by god. For definition of god, read violent destructive warmonger

All religious laws cause deep divisions in societies, lots of pain and suffering for people. Any law thats religiously orientated is a suppressive law. As too stating my sources, its biological and genetic history. Any fool, except maybe the religious would know that.

Its religion that invents things, take Joshua and Jericho. When the supposed Joshua arrived at Jericho, the walls had been down for more than 100 years, caused by an earthquake. When he and his murdering mob arrived, Jericho was undefended so the great god fearing Joshua with his universal love, went in and slaughtered everyone, a true lover of god. It was common in those days for armies to use sound as a weapon.

You can see how hypocritical and despotic your religious laws are. Take incest, Lot had sex with his daughters. Then theres Cain and Able, explain their actions. It appears monotheists make moral laws so that they can flout them, being above everyone else they will be forgiven. Suppress the populance, then abuse them, thats religious history through the ages.

But I wont bother you with more details, your brain must be full after reading the first line.
Posted by The alchemist, Friday, 14 April 2006 9:02:12 AM
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mangotreeone1,
Who is Mangotreeone1?:
1. "I do not believe in justified killing of other human beings."
Does he then believe in unjustified killing of other people? Does he believe in Justice? Both these points were lacking in the trial of Jesus. His killing was unjust, and any reasonable justice was denied as their religious laws were applied. Does he believe no one should die to preserve justice when threatend by an unjust death?

2. "I dont have to be a member of a God Club to be close to Jesus."
Does he believe Jesus does not belong to any religion?

3. "If I was a Muslim you would call me a terrorist."
Is he a terrorist according the current definitions of the war on terror? Is he encouraging violence or terror on non-Muslims?

4.If I was a member of your God Club[ you would say I was a heretic.

Is he a heretic on his own definitions of God. If not why does he identify himself as one?
Posted by Philo, Friday, 14 April 2006 9:11:23 AM
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mangotreeone1: We have a jury system which is flawed in as much as they have condemned the innocent. If one really believed in the death penalty one would have to be prepared to be the executioner as well - not my bag.
No! nothing is the same as nailing our Saviour to the cross though here we are all guilty of causing His death. Why would I call you a terrorist if you were a moslem or a heretic if you were a Christian?
I am not a member of any God club. Yes Jesus did say forgive them all [the thief on the cross was forgiven, was he a pagan Gentile or a lapsed Jew - who knows it doesn't say] not just those who believe but all mankind. Whether they today are pagan moslem terrorists, Catholic terrorists, gentle buddhists, agnostic or even atheists everyone was referred to here by the Son of God - everyone who has lived or will live, that's all mankind.
I do not attack people as such I attack their ideas and concepts. I may use sarcasm but if you think I have attacked you I apologise.
I have stated numerous times I DO NOT HATE MOSLEMS I do hate their pagan Godless, brutal, lying, misogynistic false death loving religion.

You say you could be seen as a heretic, what would I be seen as? - I believe that every person will be saved, that's every single person who has ever lived or will live . I do not believe in a literal hell fire which tortures people forever and ever. I do not think that we humans have freewill like we think we have God is in complete charge and everything is going to and will go in accordance to His will and plan. YOU mangotreeone1 are a part of this plan, YOU mangotreeone1 WILL be saved along with The alchemist. You see God loves you with an intensity that is beyond our pathetic imagination. numbat
Posted by numbat, Friday, 14 April 2006 11:54:38 AM
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