Poor Alchemist, desperately trying to prove he/she is something/ someone he/she is not! Nice try but you did sink into the slime of vindictiveness and sarcasm....and that blows your cover. It took you long enough to speak of a "spelling mistake"....all I was aksing is if you mean the same as "canaanites"....which, apparently, you don't.....fair enough. Then you go off in your own little world completely muddying the issue with "marxists", "cabalah", "Egyptians", "Jews". Did you smoke or drink something just prior to penning this junmbled mess?

And you still haven't cited your scientific sources re "cannonite blood" that genetists, supposedly, have proven infects Jews, Christians and Arabs. What books, scientific journals are we supposed to read to enlighten ourselves re these matters......or is this secret knowledge that only you posseses?

Speaking of 'blood' and genetics....

Our Lord had 'Moabite' blood in him.. from Ruth.

I've just returned from our Easter morning meeting, went to Belgrave Heights convention, and for a change did NOT get fined by some lurking policeman with a radar gun :) (got caught one trip in a newly made '50' zone which I thought was still 60)

The important thing is.... in whom is our hope. Alchemist appears to have none.. Mango made an important point about not needing to be a member of a 'god club' to be close to Jesus... indeed..

But Mango, that suggests to us that you have had a 'bad church experience' and you should be mature enough to recognize that such things are par for the course, go with the territory etc.. and that meeting with fellow believers is a wonderful uplifting experience.

Its a matter of searching out those who are in fact sincere and fair dinkum.

Blessings all... and remember.. "It is friday..but SUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNday is a comin" :)

have a listen: http://www.tonycampolo.org/media.php

Follow the link and click on the talk with that name.

As a Christian we believe:
All persons stand equal before one God.
All persons have fallen short of God the divine standard set for man.

Reconciliation [restorative justice] is required to be paid for all offenses.
Christ Jesus by his death made atonement for our spiritual offenses against God.
Imputed perfection before God is availabe to all who recognise their offenses and accept Christ atoned for those offenses against God.

As Christians we must therefore reflect the heart and nature of God in dealing with offenses against society. All persons, without exception, are equal in our society and before the State laws.

Any person unjustly removing [theiving, opressing] another's quality of life before the law is guilty of an offense. However the guilty must also face a just [equal] and fair trial. If guilt is established they must repay the State for their offense. The State has a responsibility to the offended individual to ensure their equality is restored. This is done by repaying something from the offending person, as a just [equal] recompense [atonement].

Under Shari'ah male believers in Allah have more priviledge and social opportunities and equality is not practised. Outsiders are viewed as not more than slaves in such a society, and made subservient to Allah's people. Our Christian understanding of the nature of God, as revealed by Christ places Allah as an unjust god.

Hense the capture and submission of kafir girls by Muslim males for sexual pleasure is not considered a grose injustice by Allah's laws. As Mahomet interpreted human behaviour under Allah's eternal-laws the taking of female sex slaves from among the kafir is acceptable. Hense their multiple wives and sex slaves [concubines], as practised by Muslim culture.

In the mind of many Muslim males now in Australia they follow an interpreatation of the Qur'an that considers outsiders as opponents of Allah and lesser persons under Shariah justice. Muslim wemon as half the value of a man, and kafir women as not more than sluts [sex slaves]. Hense the rejection of our social standards, flouting of our laws, equal justice and the Police.

Numbat, sorry if I hurt your feelings, knowing Christ was executed on this day by religious fanatics makes me sad,, we all travel the same road the difference is the signposts I follow are not covered in graffiti,
Boazy believes I have had a run in with some church, as a matter of fact I have read almost every religious book, every version of the Bible I could get my hands on, I have visited the Holy shrines of most religions, people who go to Holy places to find a feeling of goodness, the reaction of all the people at these shrines were the same, Christians, Jews and Muslims all reacted the sameway, being close to God was a out of this world experiance, imagine what it would be like to actually sit down and have a beer with Jesus, for a start you would be certain of the next life, you could never be angry again. I have spent more than a decade studying greed and hatred, religion came out on top, hundreds of millions of people have been put to death for belonging to the wrong God Club, religion has always accomodated their political masters, The Fires of Hell were invented by King Solomon the evidence to prove this is in the good books, God loves us all, those who believe God dishes out punishment are insane, it is only when you take a good look at God Clubs you realise they have got it wrong, maybe the reason is they are worshiping a antichrist disguised as God,

mangotreeone1:A lot of men & women are looking for a belief, yet as strange as it sounds the Creator God is looking for us. He has a love towards us that beggars description.
Always keep in mind that everything is going according to plan - God's plan and He will work it out the way He has planned it. Neither you nor I have to agree with how He is going about it
The good news - Gospel -is He has planned for all that's for everyone to make it.
Man-made religion invented the everlasting hell fire. In God's Word there is no fire which tortures anyone for eternity. If God, as is said by main stream religion, destroys the majority of mankind then by His own Bible He has failed and He will not fail at all. numbat

Francis, you sure have an understanding of your beliefs, compared to me. The sign of a true christian. If you want a hint from an unknowing one, check the Bible.

For example, the wives of Jacob's 12 sons included a Canaanite and an Egyptian. Moses married a Midianite woman and then a cush-ite (classed as a profanity if spelled in full). Samson married a Philistine. At least two non-Israelite female ancestors figured in King David's genealogy. Mixed marriages between Samaritans and Judaites were common.

One study I read was by, Dr. David Goldstein, Dr. Mark Thomas and Dr. Neil Bradman of University College, in London. It appeared in The American Journal of Human Genetics in 2002. Its published other articles relating to this over the past few years.

"The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East."

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts-jews.html

http://www.egeinfonet.i8.com/news/2001/nov/

http://phoenicia.org/genetics.html

Theres the normal conroversy, when evidence comes alomg that blows another hole in the reasoning of monothiests, time will tell.

Bd, I don't need the flimsiness of, “in whom is our hope”. One may just grasp at a straw in a raging cyclone, as live in hope of god.

Evolving beyond the fear, violence and superstition of monothiestics, allows you to see ahead in evolutionary step. To attain that, doesn't require a god, but understanding and working with the energies that make up this dimensional universve and what may surround or be within it

Numbat says things are going to gods plan. A god that has planned and made laws, those in his own image flauntconstantly, yet still seek forgiveness. A god that allows his followers to destroy his creation by trying to control and abuse the living beings that reside here. What god is that, other than a reflection of its followers who are made and act in his image.

Philo, Numbat, where did you get your beliefs from, if religion is wrong.