Meredith,

Having lived in Australia for over 36 years without a single criminal conviction to my name and without even once taking social security, I think I have the runs on the board when it comes to respecting Australian law and culture.

Religion is merely one aspect of my identity with which you may not agree. Perhaps you may not also be as fanatical a Wallabies supporter as I am. Try wearing a Wallabies jersey down the streets of Napier in NZ during an Aussie boycott of NZ apples.

The point I am making in this article is that until you understand what sharia means to Aussie Muslims, talking about it as a system of non-anaesthetic amputation is just nonsensical.

Those who want to establish sharia by non-sharia methods such as suicide bombings and flying planes into buildings are the biggest enemies of sharia.

If you want to ignore what the average Aussie Muslim thinks and impose your own understanding on them, be my guest. You will find yourself having little constructive role to play in this entire discussion.

By the way, in mainstream Australian English the word is spelt "boundaries" and not "boundries".

Irfan
There you go again.
Flying planes into buildings is jihad, NOT sharia.

Are you confused? Or, are YOU trying to confuse US?
Doesn't work, MATE. We're smarter than that.

Ifran

waht i was asking was will you learn the concept of manners and boudries as understood in secular Modernity and curtail to Australias resounding NO to non secular islam and it's religious law?

SandiM - "Irfan
There you go again.
Flying planes into buildings is jihad, NOT sharia" - exactly what Irfan just said - I think you are the one who is confused.

It seems to me that there are some people here who think this is some sort of game trying to fault Muslims and their beliefs regardless of what they say or do. I have no problem with discussion based on fact or experience or reasoned opinion but this is NOT a game. There is no scoreboard and no winner. There are lots of things I dislike about Islam and most other religions too and I have little tolerance for extremism of any kind. However there is one thing we all have in common - we are all human beings with basically the same needs and wants and for that we should show some respect.

Hear, Hear Sajo.

BTW Meredith - you are always rude to Irfan, and yet you expect him to be polite to you. You get what you put out my dear. I am surprised Irfan is as restrained as he is.

Irfan” The Koran teaches that when giving charity, give of things you value. Australians have followed this Koranic teaching by sharing with Muslim migrants so much they value”

Wrong!

This teaching is of a general humanist values and not something uniquely “Koranic”

Australians would exercise philanthropy and compassion with or without knowledge of the Koran, Islam or Mohammed.

Such generosity is within the very nature of men and women everywhere, regardless of the religious mantra to which they may hold allegiance.

I noted the title of the article is “Sharing the true values of Sharia “

Well as a committed secularist, I do not want a share of what Sharia might offer. I do not want to put at risk of suffering the bigotry which a religious influence operating within our social and legal systems will bring.

Anyone who might have read my posts on other threads will appreciate, I have no time for organised religion of any sort. Whilst I respect other people’s right to pursue the folly of their choice, I will not pretend fealty to any creed and will leave my communion with God as a private and direct matter, free from the intercession of some control freak seeking to build a co-dependency on me.

That applies to Islamist priest as much as it does to Catholic priests, Anglican priests, 7th Day Adventists or any other mob.

When Islam has something special and unique to “share”, I am sure I will hear of it but until that time, keep your preaching, piety and humbug for the faithful and leave us secularists to happily deal with our own realities