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Global warming the real terror : Comments

By Judy Cannon, published 24/2/2006

There is a danger much greater than terrorism - global warming.

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Hi KAEP, what is KAEP?

I agree therodynamics as a science is not fringe. And process is critical to the validity of findings. But I'm not clear on the links you are making in your response. I'm interested in reading your sources regarding this theory of theromodynamics in relation to explaining current climate change. Can you direct readers to links explaining this?
Posted by Burger, Thursday, 9 March 2006 9:46:47 AM
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ALP FACTION WARS ON AGAIN

Lets examine what the fight is truly about, and lets look at rank and file members and what the average member thinks about factions, through my eyes.

A preselection in any local, state or federal seat. All local rank and file members registered to vote and are on the roll, may seek preselection from the party machine and then rank and file members. Nominations are called candidates,and normal election process begins.
The preselection ballet is held, a clear win is any candidate with 50.1% of the vote, all simple stuff.
Regards,
Michael Powell Qld.

The Central Committee of the ALP loaded with factions from left middle and right are horse trading who will be endorsed as the ALP candidates in each local, state and federal seats, even after the local rank and file members have already decided who they want.
The party rules allows for a system, where the local rank and file members vote doesn't even count, unless the ALP Central Committee endorses their selected candidate.

We need to see real reform in the political system especially the ALP.
The power over leaders, federal and state officals must be given to rank and file members.
Local State Federal leaders elected by state conferences, all party officals elected by a full vote of rank and file members.

The current crop are mainly straight from grade 12, uni or party or union offices or were policy advisors with some Minister, MLA, MP or senator,and or has political family history, this is the make up the modern labor party.
It's no wonder they can't get elected to office federally or find a leader the voters truly respect.

2/3rds of the countries work force earn $35,000 per year or less.

The party and unions needs candidates who have real life, work and business experience, not professional pollitcans, union leaders straight out of uni, or Lawyers, this the labor party, where's the tradesmen or women.
Union membership is now under 20%, wake up to yourselves before their is no coming back
Posted by No ALP Factions Mick, Friday, 10 March 2006 6:10:34 AM
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Burger,

What is KAEP?

Its an anagram for Kyoto Alternative Energy Protocol. I believe this is a practical way forward to solve looming problems in global economic and social systems. The current Kyoto is an abject failure.
I will not go into KAEP details other than to say one quarter of it is to do with the use of wetlands to reform land/sea thermodynamic patterns. This is a way to use climate energy for mankind and not against it and thus amounts to an effective double energy source. It will take too long to explain the remainder and it is not pertinent here.

You agree therodynamics is not fringe but you ignore black body radiation from the poles which has a wavelength outside of greenhouse gas opacity. Is there a reason? BBR allows net transferred heat to the poles to escape the Earth and thus makes Greenhouse gas warming dirisable. This transfer of course is all part of the Prigigone dissipative structure I have referred to. Do you understand Prigigone's work in relation to Climate?

Process is critical to the validity of findings ... and more importantly to the effectiveness of related solutions to climate change problems. This is why I referred to the wetland links. They are germane to the networked EWB (Engineered Wetlands or E-Dubbyas) solution. They show that even without the mathematical analysis this solution is independently evident.

You are interested in reading my sources regarding this theory?
There are so many, and many are threaded research trails. It is not pertinent or practicable here. Further, I have to consider proprietry rights. The information I have posted here is pretty clear in itself if you read it. I will answer questions of course.

One last point. Morse theory is integral in estimating the differential topology aspects of the Australian landscape and thus the kinds of climate harmonics to be expected. Do you have an understanding of Morse theory.
Posted by KAEP, Friday, 10 March 2006 3:41:01 PM
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What complete rot, KAEP.

Black body radiation intensity is proportional to the fourth power of absolute temperature, so radiation from the polar regions is very small compared with temperate and tropical zones.

Furthermore, polar black body radiation, such as it is, is strongly absorbed by greenhouse gases, http://eesc.ldeo.columbia.edu/courses/ees/climate/lectures/o_atm.html

Morse theory has nothing to do with harmonics in the Australian landscape. It is a part of differential topology, a branch of pure mathematics, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_function
Posted by MikeM, Friday, 10 March 2006 5:26:22 PM
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KAEP, are you the guy who keeps sending me those letters written in green ink, tiny writing, eight pages long?

Thought so.

I wouldn't have even bothered to respond to such drivel, except that you were rude to me on another thread.

>>What is KAEP?

Its an anagram for Kyoto Alternative Energy Protocol<<

KAEP is an anagram of PEAK. Anagrams rearrange letters to form other words.

It is an acronym for Kyoto Alternative Energy Protocol. Or might be, if it existed outside your imagination.

>>This transfer of course is all part of the Prigigone dissipative structure I have referred to. Do you understand Prigigone's work in relation to Climate?<<

And if you are going to refer to the work of Ilya Prigogine, it would be polite to get his name correct.

>>One last point. Morse theory is integral in estimating the differential topology aspects of the Australian landscape and thus the kinds of climate harmonics to be expected<<

No it is not. The topology referred to in Morse theory has absolutely nothing to do with the Australian landscape. Or any other landscape, for that matter. There is a remote connection via partial differential equations, but none that makes sense in this context.

Of course, if your posts are part of a gigantic spoof, and you are having a good laugh that someone is taking you literally, so be it. But a joke is a joke, and this one has run its course, don't you think?
Posted by Pericles, Friday, 10 March 2006 5:26:53 PM
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Peri-cleese,

Apart from an obvious typo I did err on the 'anagram'. You are correct that should be ACRONYM. Thankx.

The rest of your complaint is arrant nonsense. You are not a scientist, that is evident both here and on other forums.

Mike,

As usual you are right on the money with the googles. Uncanny that.

However:

* Morse theory relies on mappings, but you never googled that did you. I have landscape mappings and ocean surface mappings using NOAA sat data.
* Your BBR google does not bear out what you say. It only mentions BBR from ocean surfaces.
The problem at the poles is that because ice has extremely high order it has very low entropy but this can not be used to do work as it is internal energy and not vibrational heat. This fact adds complexity to the mechanism for BBR from polar regions. As you will know, BBR is simply the electromagnetic dispersal of heat from hot bodies through the random motion of its particles. This gets quite complicated when those particles take on a crystalline structure at low temperatures(ice).
The point remains that tropical heat substantially gets transferred to the poles where it does get emitted to space at a much greater rate than has been detailed to date.

Further the data analysis is already showing Houston in the US Gulf region to be at some threat this year. Stay tuned. This thread will be ongoing till then at least. I will do my best to keep it afloat.
Posted by KAEP, Friday, 10 March 2006 11:57:59 PM
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