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Global warming the real terror : Comments

By Judy Cannon, published 24/2/2006

There is a danger much greater than terrorism - global warming.

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MikeM,

I dont see any dfference between what the PM said, and my short hand version. Its the degree we are talking about, because its sets the scene about the priority, which is what the author is on about in the first place. She says it should be top priority,because because, others say it is an issue, but when ranked against all others affecting humanity, it is low down the pole.
Quoting the IPCC third assessment report as the definitive answer is rubbish. They cant even get the economic parts even half right.
Posted by bigmal, Friday, 24 February 2006 1:38:23 PM
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Global warming, climate change, no threat but a big boon to the world as it will wipe out all the religious As their to stupid to see anything but their delusions of a god saving them. What I can't understand is that they rave so much about how good it is in heaven, yet do all they can to stay alive. If they did the good and right thing and went to their maker, the problems may well be solved.

Those that aren't religious and can't see what is happening to our world, are not very intelligent. The planet is changing, it may be warming, dimming, going through a natural cycle or our planetary system may be entering an unknown area of the universe that is having adverse effects upon our climate. Does it matter what it is, what matters if that we are at least partly to blame. If we had any sense we would be caring for the world, not destroying its ecology.

What the dills refuse to see is that something is happening and faster than we had expected. You could say that we have reached the top of the hill and are now speeding down the other side into climate chaos. Storms in the southern ocean, are now reaching force 12 regularly and up to force 15 in some cases. Where I live, we look out at the southern ocean and in the last 7 years, it has definitely changed.
Posted by The alchemist, Friday, 24 February 2006 5:06:28 PM
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There are enormous quantities of methane trapped in permafrost and under the oceans in ice-like structures called clathrates. The methane in Arctic permafrost clathrates is estimated at 400 billion tons.

Methane is more than 20 times as strong a greenhouse gas as CO2.

The highest temperature increase from global warming is occurring in the arctic regions-an area rich in these unstable clathrates. Simulations from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) show that over half the permafrost will thaw by 2050, and as much as 90 percent by 2100.

Western Siberia is heating up faster than anywhere else in the world, having experienced a rise of some 3C in the past 40 years. The west Siberian peat bog could hold some 70 billion tonnes of methane. Local atmospheric levels of methane on the Siberian shelf are now 25 times higher than global concentrations.

Releases of methane from melting oceanic clathrates have caused severe environmental impacts in the past. The methane in oceanic clathrates has been estimated at 10,000 billion tons.

55 million years ago a global warming chain reaction (probably started by volcanic activity) melted oceanic clathrates. It was one of the most rapid and extreme global warming events in geologic history.

Humans appear to be capable of emitting CO2 in quantities comparable to the volcanic activity that started these chain reactions.

To summarize, human activity is causing the Earth to warm. Bacteria converts carbon in the soil into greenhouse gasses, and enormous quantities are trapped in unstable clathrates. As the earth continues to warm, permafrost clathrates will thaw; peat and soil microbial activity will dramatically increase; and, finally, vast oceanic clathrates will melt. This global warming chain reaction has happened in the past.

Atmospheric concentrations of CO2 rose by a record amount over the past year. It is the third successive year in which they have increased sharply. Scientists are at a loss to explain why the rapid rise has taken place, but fear the trend could be the first sign of runaway global warming.

I suggest the following article for further information: http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0222-27.htm
Posted by dobermanmacledo, Friday, 24 February 2006 5:41:01 PM
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bigmal has clearly not read the IPCC report that he rubbishes.

I doubt whether he has read Bjorn Lomborg's book, The Skeptical Environmentalist, which does discuss the economics of the Kyoto Treaty at some length, http://lomborg.org/. Lomborg does not dispute the effect of greenhouse gas emissions on the global climate but thinks that, if money is to be spent, it would be better spent on other things. Read about The Copenhagen Consensus at http://www.economist.com/finance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2724755. Unfortunately its argument depends on the money that might be spent on Kyoto actually being spent on some other things, and that is simply not happening.

In saying that, "when ranked against all others affecting humanity, it is low down the pole", bigmal has also not taken into account the report in last week's New Scientist magazine that 9 million people are at risk by 2050 in the world's most highly populated river deltas (of which the Bengal Delta in Bangladesh is the most heavily populated, but also includes the Mississippi Delta where New Orleans is situated). (Probably available at your local library.)

There are other risk factors with the deltas besides global warming, but it is certainly one of them.

It's rather unlikely that Al Qaeda will kill 9 million people between now and 2050.
Posted by MikeM, Friday, 24 February 2006 5:55:30 PM
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dobermanmacledo - just a thought, is it possible to harness all this methane as a substitute for oil? If it is going to be released anyway maybe we could get some use out of it before peak oil strikes.
Posted by sajo, Friday, 24 February 2006 6:05:26 PM
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With Idol threats of De- funding when senior Scientists are forced to withhold REAL SCIENTIFIC findings, and made to fabricate information and findings to suit the Looters quest for more Tax Funding,( Self Perpetuated Employment) and when the sum of total findings debunk the Political Marxist rhetoric of Global warming. It gets shoved away and the cheque book gets hidden away- yes, The whole Global Warming Saga is a total pack of lies and garbage perpetuated by Interest groups and that barrow of Cash the Looters love to steal and the pathological just love to create fear, Fantastic Industry of total fabrication and lies. There is warming, but it is the natural cycle.
I wonder, in another fifty years when we have a Mini Ice age once more, that it must have been those bad Fluorocarbons coming back to haunt us.
Yes, speak to CSIRO scientists, (Not the Looter Installed Commissars), ask the real Scientists, they will spill the beans, and they have. But did you hear about it?
“Another”, I wonder why?
Posted by All-, Friday, 24 February 2006 6:15:04 PM
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