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By Judy Cannon, published 24/2/2006There is a danger much greater than terrorism - global warming.
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Posted by KAEP, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 7:58:46 AM
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Half cocked, bigmal?
Have you been smoking what KAEP's been smoking? I didn't say anything about State persecution, although the Tuvaluans are beginniing to see it that way. Quoting from the document you linked to at the National Tidal Centre... From the Executive Summary, "... sealevel records... are in line with global trends estimated from satellite-based altimeters..." Referring to table 2 on page 25, the trend according to SEAFRAME measurements to date ranges from 0.8 mm/year rise at the Cook Islands to 6.9 mm/year at PNG (neglecting two outlier values which may be anomalous). The trend at Tuvalu is 5.5 mm/year. The graph you highlighted is too noisy to see the trend, suggesting that you are not a statistician. As the report also points out, the biggest danger to low-lying land is not from rise in mean sea level, but from storm surges. There is evidence that global warming is causing cyclones to become more intense; although one cannot directly link cause and effect, Australia is at risk of being hit by cyclone Glenda, the second category 5 in a month. From the Met Office current cyclone advisory issued this morning: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for a CATEGORY 5 CYCLONE for coastal areas between De Grey and Onslow and extending to adjacent inland parts... Residents of the central and west Pilbara coast are warned of the risk of very destructive winds with gusts exceeding 250 kilometres per hour during Thursday as this very dangerous cyclone nears the coast... When was the last time we had two category fives within a month? Posted by MikeM, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:50:43 PM
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Global warming will destroy the existing civilisation. Nothing is destroyed but conversion of energy takes place.The point is human civilisation does not want to be destroyed in itself.We hope and try not to be ruined and thinking for survival is a continuous process.Many empires in history have been ruined but civilisation never perished totally but grew up with new ideas.So,we must talk of global warming and conduct research for our protection;simulteneously not to be frustrated thinking negatively to get ourselves be prepared to see our destruction.
It is fact new scientific discovery compel us to change our management system. Posted by DR.PRABIR, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 3:31:34 PM
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Thermodynamics, cause and effect,
Record mining activity and pollution spills in WA between Broome and Dampier coincide with record cyclone activity in the exact same area. Meanwhile all global warming can come up with is a .2,.5 or .6 degC warmer planet - at the finite (phoney) number of test locations available that is! People with heads stuck in the sand? Ah Target practice! Now before whingeing more about real scientists who have no time for a bought and sold IPCC I suggest certain posters have a little think about how just 3 hours after my last posting on sensible-limitaions-on-global-economic-aspirations, Australian fuel prices shot up 11.5%. Unless they want to choke on sand, I suggest certain posters show a little respect for what is becoming a new and poignant debate on climate change. A debate which I expect will create serious questions on how to solve climate change after the coming June-August hurricane onslaugt on Houston Tx. Cause and effect? More glabial warming? Nah, its just all the extra population and industrial load placed on Houston post hurricane Katrina. A load which is showing up on certain satellite maps as intractable entropy anomolies in hurricane alley between Houston and the Yucatan straits. Posted by KAEP, Thursday, 30 March 2006 1:30:51 PM
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KAEP, states that ‘+/-30cm sea-height(SHA) variations make any real measure of rising sea-levels-at-island-chains meaningless’.
This observation discredits KAEP’s prior claim that, “There is NO evidence of sea level rises, otherwise low lying island groups would already have sunk.” Secondly KAEP fails to address the issue presented, that 'global' sea level is rising. The tactic is unconvincing when KAEP selectively ignores the evidence that global 'averaged' sea-level rise is in the order of 2 mm a year, which is an order of magnitude larger than the average rate over the previous several millennia. (http://www.marine.csiro.au/LeafletsFolder/45slevel/45.html). The crude misrepresentation of the hard evidence of global average temperature rise is equally unconvincing. As for KAEP’s final bit of playful logic, are we to be convinced that there is a connection between KAEP’s posting to this forum and our petrol prices? If so KAEP, oughtn’t you restrict yourself for that sake of Froggie’s vision of unencumbered growth? Posted by Realo, Friday, 31 March 2006 11:30:24 AM
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More on GOM Entropy mapping.
Since I presented my last OLO post on the NewYorkTimes on 31-3-06 three Morse mapping changes have occurred. 1. There has been a marked decrease in GulfOfMexico coastal temperature fluctuations. see http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1/work/HHP/ [...] Just change the 90 to 91 for april 1 and so on. 2. There has been a marked advancement of hot water entering the GOM via the Yucatan straits. The level of intrusion is significantly MORE than 2005. 3. There are fewer discrete sea height changes (proportional to entropy) around the Galveston/Houston coastline. see http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1/work/HHP/NEW/2006090atssh.png Again, just change the 90 to 91 for april 1 and so on. These sudden transformations are unique relative to 2005-06 data sets. It is too early to tell which of several factors are causing these transformations. One cannot rule out the possibility that authorities around Gulf ports, particularly Galveston/Houston have begun to take wastewater management more seriously. At any rate, an evening out of entropy fluctuations means that natuaral cyclonic formations entering the GOM will not have sea surface entropy differences to fall down and amplify their strength. This bodes well for the coming season. The fact that more warm water than usual is entering the GOM at this time is irrelevant because without sea surface entropy fluctuations a warmer than usual GOM will create low pressure atmospheric systems that by the 2LT will impede low entropy cyclonic intrusions. The bottom line is, what happens in the US hurricane season is largely determined NOW. Further, relatively small modifications to wastewater management practices. Posted by KAEP, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 2:10:27 PM
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Channel 9 last night presented an ABC newspiece-special on global warming and species extinction to the strains of Mike Munro saying global-warming-is-now-fact. The newspiece faded out to pictures of crowds-surging-onto-trains and the message of 'how-many-species-we-save-is-up-to-us'.IE WE have the power to decide because we-are-the-global-economy.
Media lackeys are clearly supporting the endless global economy GRAVY-TRAIN and are merely inuring us to species extincions as they announce their intention to continue raping this planet by encouraging massive population based market expansions.
It is clear from this that the IPCC exists on the coat-tails of this gravy-train solely to misfeed information on biospheric dynamics to the public. It is their intent to similarly inure us to the intractability of a warming planet so we can say "blow-it-all" and get on with our slavish support of global-economic-agendas. Agendas which continue to divert the majority-of-world-wealth to a handful of do-nothing polititians, CEOs and investors. These people appear to be intent on farming large human-populations for profit. As in all good farming practice, there will be inevitable culs by some hi-tech means (probably a highly specific synthetic virus) when they see fit to save THEIR environment.
What the ABC report is really inuring us to is an acceptance of the power of the global economic gravy train and a populational acceptance not so much of species extinctions, but for many human beings, their own.
Unfortunately for the IPCC, the ruse has been up for some time. The fact that humans have an innate INABILITY to understand the-laws-of-thermodynamics when dealing with complex-problems has given the
IPCC their credibility but this is now severely challenged: There are going to be some big changes in awareness after the world's premier thermodynamics learning laboratory (the US Gulf Coast) goes-ballistic-this-coming-June.
My heart goes out to the people of that REGION but they WILL want answers in the aftremath of this looming tragedy. The IPCC will not have those answers. A better understanding of simple-thermodynamics-causes-and-effects will. This will see the beginning-of-the-end of using the world's oceans as toilet bowls and thus put a sensible-limitation-on-unsustainable-global-economic-aspirations.