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Pro-choice and Catholic: A mother's story : Comments
By Kate Mannix, published 8/2/2006Kate Mannix scrutinises the Catholic Church and pro-life advocates over motherhood and abortion.
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Posted by Scout, Friday, 11 August 2006 9:15:03 AM
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Meg1,
I’m not sure if Welsh born Australian broadcaster Robyn Williams (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robyn_Williams ) can act, but he has impeccable credentials as a science commentator. I reckon you’re confusing him with Robin Williams of Mrs Doubtfire fame. Nanoo nanoo, Snout (not Scout) Posted by Snout, Friday, 11 August 2006 10:32:43 AM
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Snout, you are going way above Meg's head here, expecting her
to know about Aussie Science broadcasters. She's a good little Catholic housewife, who follows what Archibishop Pell says, she's not into science. You might get my drift :) CC, Nathanson is yet another Catholic pseudo guru that Meg has thrown up here. Last time it was Mother T, so we examined that one and the sad truth came out :( I've been sparring with Meg now for quite some time :) So let me go back to basics with you CC. Most women could create over 400 potential people in their lives, reality prevails, they cannot all survive. So it really should be up to mothers to decide, how many children they can feed, clothe and nurture for 20 years or whatever. Forcing women to have children that they cannot provide for, leads to much suffering in this world. The notion of the sanctity of life is all very nice, but lets judge people by their actions rather then words. Lots of people want to tell other people what to do, with the others resources, not their own. The Catholic Church, an extremely rich organisation, spends a fortune on the pomp and splendor of Rome. Opus Dei alone is said to be worth over 2.6 billion$, thats just a small offshoot. So we see where their priorities lie. Pomp and splendor clearly matter more to them then starving babies, or their priorities would be different. You and Meg could sell your computers tomorrow and send the money to Africa. Clearly you prefer to argue with me, then save another couple. Those are your priorities as we can evidence them here and now! So the reality is, that the discussion of the sanctity of life is mostly rhetoric. 30k people in India a year die of rabies, which could easily be prevented with vaccination and a few $. My personal belief is that lets focus our limited resources on people, who are suffering, rather then the near unlimited amount of potential people, that women could produce. Posted by Yabby, Friday, 11 August 2006 3:10:14 PM
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Yabby,
This is old tired propaganda. You are a very confused individual and you have still not answered my questions. Do you really believe the Church lives for pomp? Oh please! I'll let you in on a little secret. I know a Catholic healer and mystic. I won’t mention his name now but I'll ask if I can (re: privacy). He has been receiving messages and divine inspiration for 16 years and he travels the word at the invitation many parishes. He has been endorsed by his Bishop. Through him God has healed hundreds of people. His website has numerous testimonials. The doctors of the healed individuals can only use the word miracle to explain it i.e. healings like this just don't happen instantaneously. His spiritual directors are in no doubt about his spiritual experiences and are amazed at his in-depth knowledge of Catholic orthodoxy considering he was a lapsed Catholic with very little knowledge of the faith. I was also amazed. I didn't know or believe that this kind if thing still happens, but it does. God bless you Yabby. I will keep you in my prayers even though I don't know you and probably never will. Compassionate Catholic. Posted by Compassionate Catholic, Friday, 11 August 2006 4:36:30 PM
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Yabby,
You are possibly right about Meg1, but I couldn't let her disparage one of the finest minds in the country. Perhaps that's what comes of believing there is only one book in the world worth reading. I'll certainly be looking out for Robyn Williams' new book. I've been following his career ever since his early days with Take That ;-) Sing when you're ahead! Posted by Snout, Friday, 11 August 2006 4:59:22 PM
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CC, I thought I had in fact answered your questions, in my own
philosophical way, just not as you expected. I do admit however that the 350 word limit often means that I have to chop my replies in half, to meet the criteria. What specifically bugs you? I too have friends who suffer from schizophrenia, or hearing voices as you call it, nothing magical about that, it affects 1%-2% of the population. The placebo effect is well known too. Nearly all scientific trials experience it to some degree, when it comes to curing sickness. Clearly the power of the mind is a powerful intrument, which dominates the body, specifically the immune system. So no magic there either. The skeptics in fact, have a 1 million $ prize on offer, for anyone who can show substantiated evidence, of any paranormal powers. If your friend really has them, I am sure that his favourite charity, would love the money! You and he are free to provide your evidence to them, for 1 million $! Nowhere did I state that the RCC lives for pomp. Simply that they spend alot of money on pomp in Rome, which we can all observe. They are free to prioritise their expenditure. Clearly pomp matters more then starving babies to them, or their priorities would be different to what they are. No need to pray for me CC. Your god clearly does not give a sh*t about the many starving and deformed babies that he created as a gift to you, or so you claim. Best he focuses on their poor lives, I am doing pretty well, thank you... Posted by Yabby, Friday, 11 August 2006 10:53:34 PM
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The book will be good therapy after reading all the insults rained upon you for simply and honestly giving your POV.
Cheers