We all know Arjay blames Gogh for everything from ingrown toenails to global warming. It’s his chosen role in life.

My research (which is more concise than Pauline Hanson’s maiden speech) on the history of immigration and multicultural policy contends that with the abolishment of the WAP (1966) policy became much more flexible.

Whitlam merely mirrored this abolishment in policy (references to race) but reduced the overall intake of immigrants in his term in office.

The increase in number and percentage of migrants from non-European countries did not take place until after the Fraser government came into office in 1975 and immigration levels remained high in Hawke and Keating years.

We have yet to have a national debate about population and environmental stability, a call that I would whole heartedly support.

This is very different from a return call to the sentiments expressed in the WAP I see being expressed covertly and overtly here.

Environmental sustainability is more than green environmentalism - is also about the social and cultural environment in the present and the future.

The shift from fears about Asian immigration (Howard and Hanson) in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s to a fear about Muslim immigration needs to be understood more holistically.

But this gets lost in the rush to demonize Muslims. Instead what we witness here is a white terror, fueled by media coverage of wars and anti-Muslim & pro-American propaganda.

Cronulla was just a symptom of larger anxiety politicians such as Howard avoids addressing as it means he may have to develop a real -not politically- opportunistic- vision for this nation.

While many here do not condone racism, they nonetheless are blinded to how racism is now an affective technology used by politicians and their media mates. Dogs that get whistled often don’t know they’ve been whistled at all. They just obey.

Jkenno, I’m totally over discussing Indigenous issues with BD. He invariably wants to psycho-analyze us / me on his couch – books by Siggy Freud, Margi Meade and of course the Gideon close at hand. I’d rather swallow a bucket of poison

For goodness sake.

Cronulla is fresh in our minds. The theology of Islam is commented on in here and the conclusion is negative. These two events occur close together in time. One must have caused the other.

The Cronulla event caused the negative evaluation of the theology of Islam.

Why not, instead of reasoning this way, reason yourself about what Islam really is. That way you can once and for all get rid of these 'Muslim demonisers'.

Otherwise don't bloody comment. C'mon people.

Just read the pdf file on this link.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001307.php

People who are critical of Islam as a religion are not engaging in white terror, racism or some other ludicrous thing.

I would love Islam to be a superior religion.

I would gladly exchange the septic, sex obsessed, materialistic, soulless, parts of our culture, for some decent dogma. Dogma that includes God, truth, beauty. Instead of this "meaning in denial" crap, nihilism, anomie and "pleasure is the greatest good" dogma.

But Islam doesn't fit the bill, it demands to and will throw out all our lovely tolerance in a second. The fruits of western christian history will go as soon as Sharia is able. Have no illusions.

Hitler dispensed with democracy as soon as he was democratically elected. The weak Weimar republic was cast aside.

Look, a white highly civilised country with a history of producing great theologians was seduced. Why might the Muslims be any different? They are being given the opportunity by a weak secular west that is losing touch with its religious raison d'etre. It can't handle the primal force that is Islam without the shield of faith in Christ.

The evidence is in Europe now. All one has to do is connect religious text with behaviour of those who live according to it in the world right now.

*shrug*

Martin,

Hitler was right in getting rid of democracy. He rebuilt Germany.That cannot be denied. Also that he turned into the personification of pure evil cannot be denied.

Islam is a vicious evil religion(Nick Griffin). Nick got off on two out of four charges. Dare I say Nick Griffin for Prime Minister. Yes I dare.

Fredrich - and i now hundreds of Indigenous people who do care about the work mick is doing for their housing in and around Redfern. I don't see how any of his work can be considered rubbish (but, as usual, you your generalising finds a way eh!)

Mick is not about merely helping someone you know 'get on with life'. These leaders of the Indigenous community are about helping the entire community, fundamentally by improving the conditions which they live in. It is about encouraging respect, about improving outlook and creating ambition. Rubbish indeed.

Hi all

Leigh (post 9:49:13AM 1/2/06)
I concur with you - though I mightn't have expressed it quite the same way.
I don't support multiculturalism at all now. I certainly wouldn't have supported mc for all the years that I did - I helped co-ordinate major Australia-wide events throughout the 90s - if I'd known what I now know. I don't know even 1 of over 200 'new' Australian friends who supports the concept. My former-wife's uncle, a Croat by birth, is vocally opposed. He was an Aussie from the moment that he began work at the Snowy Mountains just after arriving in Australia.
(2/2/06)

Divergence (post 1:47:39 PM 1/2/06)
Thank you!
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Rainier (post 3:56:45 PM 1/2/06)
Great swathes of the population call themselves Christians, too. But when you get into inquiring conversation some of them think that it's about Santa.
With multiculturalism not being accurately defined at inception & being allowed to evolve, few could actually define what it means now.
If multiculturalism includes the embracing of legal protocols, then Muslims have the right to say, "Well you want my halal kebabs, & you allow us to build our mosques. Our women can freely wear the Chador. Why do you stop us from having our Sharia marriage rights?" In fact, there have already been two deputations to the Federal Attorney General in that regard - 1998 & 2003 (from memory). I have the documents of those appeals stored away in 'hardcopy'. The delegates were denied their submission on both occasions.
If/when successful, where do the boundaries of statutorial change cease?
(2/2/06)

Freidrich (post 6:42:54 PM 1/2/06)
Well that you, myself, Corel (my ex's uncle) & millions of other silent constituents seek integration should not surprise us.
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Keith (post 7:12:37 PM 1/2/06)
Heh, you admit that you made a mistake & that you're willing to change your views. [I didn't say that I disagreed, though.] You're the type of person that we need in government. Can you tell me the suburb that you live in? - I'll move there. Next election I'll vote for you.
(2/2/06)

Cheers all

LittleAgreeableBuddy, The policy of Multiculturalism is just that, a policy, not a law -something many here deliberately confuse when on their soap boxes about Islam and Muslims.

I believe in good civil laws and human rights with sufficient flexibility to respect and protect cultural diversity and human integrity.

This reflects a good approach to the shrinking human world we live in.

If there are practices that do not fit within contemporary notions of civility and respectability then these should be dealt with by laws and the policies that they give birth to.

The right to religion and culture is limited at the point at which it infringes on another human rights (between and within) given cultures.

Are you advocating for the right to infringe simply on the hypothetical predictions you put forward - or something more substantial (evidence