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What now that West Papuans got under our guard? : Comments

By Tony Kevin, published 25/1/2006

Tony Kevin argues Australian authorities will be outraged by the achievement of the 43 West Papuan refugees.

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Proud to be Indonesian,
You obviously have no military skills in peaceful negotiation. The people I know in West Papua are happy to be Indonesian but when the Indonesian Army bastardise their community imposing their authority they privately hope for a better way.

I have no contact with separatist fighters, but can understand why they want personal freedom to practise their culture rather than convert to Islam. You are behaving the same way toward these native people as you have done toward the East Temorise.

I can tell you people are happy to live under a government that respects their freedom and choices; and not like yourself that want to impose your will over people. Obviously you have murdered without trial all who will not submit to your will. This is the sign of an uncivilised society.

You bring Chapelle Corby into the scene - a young woman condemned on circumstancial evidence. There was no fingerprinting done on the plastic bags and no DNA samples taken of the drugs to discover their sourse, which indicates the primitive justice practised in Indonesia. Only these forensic examinations could have established her guilt or innonence.

Talk about primitive justice you certainly believe in it. Is it any wonder that innocent people shot without trial in West Papua that their families hate and react toward the Indonesian Army.
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Quotes like this indicate your view of these people. "You obviously has been brainwashed by Papuan separatist propaganda. The truth is, it is the Papuan separatists who are barbaric civilian-murdering thugs, as discovered by FBI. The barbaric Papuan separatists also the ones who kidnapped 15 WWF researchers in 1996, eventually murdering two of them while the others were successfully rescued by Indonesian soldiers."
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 29 January 2006 1:49:19 PM
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Australia should not have to take as migrants any more people who's culture is so different to our own. We are having enough strife with certain races and we will have more when the African nationals get going.
If these 43 people are given asylum ,we will have the whole of islands to our north on our doorstep.
Perhaps if the UN investigated Indonesia's treatment of other races and insisted they get their independance as did East Timor, it would be a good thing.
Posted by mickijo, Sunday, 29 January 2006 3:10:24 PM
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Proud to be Indoneasian to you sir all I have to say about your apparent primordial approach is ...........With friends like you who needs enemies. I think you are a ratbag.
Posted by tribal, Sunday, 29 January 2006 3:16:53 PM
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Tribal

Proud to be Javanese is indeed a ratbag.
Posted by keith, Sunday, 29 January 2006 6:30:04 PM
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Proud to be Indonesian - you state "Indonesia is perhaps the most successful country in ending insurgencies anywhere in the world"; There are many in Aceh who since independence would disagree. The sad thing about excess of any kind is that it completely blinds you to facts. Excess of pride has made you grow blinkers. To be proud also means to be honourable and credible; your posts lack both on many occasions
Posted by Coraliz, Sunday, 29 January 2006 7:50:11 PM
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I think it's interesting that the Western New Guinea issue doesn't get the attention of the UN. The majority of UN time is spent in issuing condemnations of the Jewish majority in Israel for not carving a separate country for the minority there -- a country that would easlily fit into Cumberland Co., NSW. In Israel, Jews who live in their own country are called "settlers" and "ocupiers"; and whenever they try to expand their communities to give homes to needy families, the world pressures the Israeli government to tear them down. In New Guinea, there is a large, clearly defined country, clearly having been invaded and occupied by the Indonesians, but the world says nothing -- because the occupiers are Moslems, not Jews. How about a UNWRA for the Papuans?
Posted by Joseph Stalin, Sunday, 29 January 2006 9:26:58 PM
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