To Leigh.

Looks like you hit a nerve with WRE. When you provoke an emotional outburst from a trendy lefty, who is frustrated that his oh, so intellectually superior self image is being trashed by reasoned logic, you know that you are winning.

Analysis of attitude - Proud to be Indonesian

Attitude to West Papuans:
1. These asylum seekers are barbaric Papuan separatists
2. The kind of people who murdered two American schoolteachers in cold-blood in 2002
3. These barbaric thugs made this journey as method of dirty propaganda against Indonesia.
4. Papua's is LEGALLY and UNDENIABLY an integral and inseparable part of Republic of Indonesia according to two UN resolutions.
5. The truth is, the FBI found that it is the barbaric uncivilised Papuan separatists who is responsible for the murders of one Indonesian teacher and two Americans. These "asylum-seekers" are the same group with these barbaric thugs. Now wonder Australian govt is moving these barbarians to Christmas Island, so they won't be able to kill civilians like their habit back home
6. Barbaric Papuan separatism is all about dead and has zero prospect in the future. Most native Papuans today are prosperous and proud Indonesians (two of Indonesia's Olympic silver winners and a third of our national soccer team are Papuans).

Attitude to East Temor
1. It won't be like East Timor, which was let go by President Habibie since we can no longer afford the billions of rupiah of subsidies each year for that worthless piece of real estate.

Attitude to Australia
1. Let me made it clear for some Australians who stupidly think they can play around with Indonesia's territorial integrity in Papua province. We Indonesians will fight you to the death, 60% of Papua's inhabitants are transmigrants. They will make any Australian invaders choke with blood if you dare come.
2. In comparison, Australia is Aboriginal land illegally annexed by Britain using the illegal "terra nullis" concept which has been considered as illegal by the Mabo Ruling of 1995. An illegally-established country like Australia trying to tell others what is legal is like Hitler complaining about anti-Semitism.
3. The way some people here have misguided fantasies that Australia is somehow important or infuential in Indonesia is hilarious. The truth is, Australia is just a minor insignificant country that's very low in terms of importance to Indonesia.

Cont:
4. Australian armed forces is also just a joke. Their history is a history of defeats. When fighting alone, Australian troops was easily beaten, like in Gallipoli and Malaya. Your so-called "victories" in New Guinea should actually be credited to Americans who won all the major battles first before leaving the starving Japanese remnants to their stooges the Australians, since the American soldiers couldn't be bothered to mop-up. In East Timor, Australian soldiers have to be transported and guided by Indonesian soldiers at their first entrance, since President Habibie had ordered our soldiers to welcome the Australians with open arms.
5. If Australian invaders dare come to Indonesia, we 250 million Indonesians will make them pay in blood for each time their dirty feet touch Indonesian soil.
6. Besides, Australia is just an American stooge. President Yudhoyono is a close friend of President Bush, who viewed Indonesia as strategic ally. A stooge like Australia has no power or capability to invade other countries, especially a more important American ally, Indonesia.
7. Who are you trying to fool? East Timor is the world's poorest country with no worthwhile resources. The small oil reserve you're talking about have been stolen by that "first-world country" Australia. No wonder, considering the criminal origins of this "first-world country". We Indonesians have little respect for such first-class thieves.
8. Australia back-stabbed us in the back. We Indonesians have no respect for such back-stabbing people.

CONCLUSION:
When analysing his attitudes we discover he's a proud thug that promotes Indonesian propaganda and war mongering postering threats towards Australia. He's more interested in territory than people eg East-Temor. His arrogance toward Australia demonstrates his fear that Australia will act to protect the Native people of West Papua from attrocities committed by the Indonesian Army as it's done in East Temor. Which indicates he knows the facts of attrocities carried out against West Papuans and struggles to gloss over the reality, by indicating the army has wiped out all independence movement from WP.

If this is the case then these asylum seekers have a genuine case of refugee status.

Hear Hear. Philo

To Mr Proud to be an Indonsian.

I see that you are having a bit of trouble with our resident trendy lefties, would you like to, cross swords with a genuine right wing Australian?

Now personally, I think that since east Timor is geographically a part of Indonesia it should be Indonesian territory. Do you think that Indonesia could “liberate” the place again? It would save the long suffering Aussie taxpayer $200 million dollars a year.

While you are at it, could you also “liberate” Papua Niugini as well? This “country” costs Australia $500 million in direct aid every year, and a lot more in trouble. You know and I know that black people are hopeless at running a country, and since Australia abrogated its colonial responsibilities in guiding these backward primitives into the modern world, then it is only right that a relatively advanced country like Indonesia should do something to stop the near anarchy that the Papuans laughingly call a government.

Now you may need to get a little heavy handed to bring the Western Niugini primitives under control, but so what? When you look at the endless massacres and total dysfunction of black societies everywhere, then cracking a few eggs to make an omelet is justified. Remember what the Boers used to say. “A massacre in time saves nine.”

Now people of my political persuasion have no territorial ambitions towards Indonesia. As a matter of fact, we know that Australia is separated from Indonesia by the width of the Timor Sea, which most Australians wish was considerably wider. Unfortunately, this has not prevented a lot of Indonesians from immigrating to Australia, including a few dozen Jemaah Islamiah ratbags who want to blow us up, and with whom our government is powerless to deport. If you think that white people are crazy for putting up with stupidity, you are right.

To summarize, you guys stay on your side of the fence and we will happily stay on ours. As far as I am concerned, what you fellas do in Timor and in Timor and Niugini is your business.

Redneck,

Yes. They can give it but the can’t take it. These same lefties are the first to scream against censorship when it comes their wacky ideas. Ranier suggested that I be banned the other day. WRE and Ranier have become serial pests. I think the poor things actually think that if they insult people long enough they will go away and leave them to rule the roost. They are best ignored and left to rave and rant between themselves. I think most people on OLO, no matter what their views, conduct themselves properly, but these two are blight to both left and right and everything in between.

If WRE and Ranier had their way, they would be the only participants on OLO, until they fell out, which wouldn’t be too long with those egos