Alchemy, that was very astute. I have turned into an old fart and Cyril has become a fashion accessory.

Point taken on the ups and downs of testosterone.

Still, I bet that if the youngsters had halfway decent relationships, they might be more kindly disposed to their fellow travellers.

As for the red-necks (who are not so young - and some of them are posting to this thread), well, they are just dud roots.

It shows.

Anomie... please never worry about speaking truth.. they were Jews.. its cool, they could have been Tasmanians..(perish the thought :) this is a place of robust interchange of views and thoughts, and matters of fact are important to be put into the mix.

Historical Lessons of the Lambing Flats massacre for "multi culturalism"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambing_Flat_riots

Please read this article, and see the similarities to what is happening now. At that time, it was a battle of cultures. Had the 'whites' lost that battle, we would have almond eyes and speak chinese. Any whites here, would be a huddled minority. The government took specific action to remedy the seeds of hostility, and from this the White Australia Policy emerged. That policy, while discriminatory, and in todays world is untenable and outright wrong in my opinion, did give us the prevailing cultural flavor and cohesian which otherwise we would not have.

We would have had large numbers of ethnic groups of different cultures, which would compete in every way for resources and opportunities, at the expense of the 'competitor' group. Specially so as their populations grew.

THE LESSON is this, Social policy should be tied to human behavior, and social realities not "pie in the sky political correctness". Or idealistic U.N. charters.
Policy of the right kind, will prevent the events of Cronulla and those yet to unfold.

Specially for Ranier.

Yes, the whites disposessed the blacks. IT WAS BAD, but it is also history and no different from every country and race on earth, including MY OWN ancestors and my wifes, so GET OVER IT and start to enjoy a less bitter life.

Shepperton, which now has a large Muslim minority, DISCRIMINATES against non Muslim families who wish to use the swimming pool TWO NIGHTS A WEEK. (Men only night/Ladies only night)
This is illegal, and is just another example of cultural incompatability.

All young people of Anglo and Lebanese persuasions who have participated in this week's barbaric thugery are to be condemned. All who violated another person, a building, a car etc should have been charged and gaoled. There is no excuse for either group.

Predictably, I found the article soft pedal on the non-Anglos and generally unbalanced. I also found it interesting that the writer appropriately uses upper case for Premier and Member of Parliament, but each time the term Prime Minister was used, he used lower case for a proper noun. I doubt that was a Freudian slip! Says heaps.

Benjamin, I loved your notion of "Anglophobia". First time I have heard it. How appropriate.

Ms. Malaise (meaning Ms. Sick I guess). So glad that you are not an MP in my area. I would despair with attitudes such as yours.

I am pleased that the NSW Parliament is reconvening tomorrow to give police people more power. Also think it would be a good idea to bring in the army. Then the Lebanese thugs who bash women, and chase women and children might learn what real manhood is all about. Did you see the young Aussie mother interviewed on ACA? How apalling was her situation. And what about the cowardly Lebs who threw a brick into a unit - just missing a five months old baby.

This afternoon in Qld, 4bc radio and the local TV news reported on a Lebanese SMS that has hit the wires on the Gold Coast - calling on all Lebanese male youth to congregate on the Gold Coast this weekend as a form of relatiation for last Sunday's riot at Cronulla. Really intelligent eh?

BD, I thought you raised some really good points.

Kay

Irfan, the real issue is that its up to the Lebanese-Muslim community to figure out why Lebanese Muslims have such a hard time here, whilst hundreds of thousands of other migrants are thriving. Perhaps the problem is not Australia at all, so time for some navel gazing perhaps.

It sounds to me like Lebanese gangs have been tormenting Sydneysiders for years. Now you are amazed that people respond.. sheesh..

Stop blaming everyone else for your problems and see the reality
of the situation. People will show Lebanese Muslims some respect when Lebanese Muslims show some respect for others. As that has clearly been lacking with all the gang activity, you should not be amazed and try to hide under the racism banner.

We need to re-define "racism." It appears that many cannot manage to hold the concept in mind in reference to non-Anglos, using at best terms like "reverse racism," at worst "terrorism."

Is this why Howard says there is no underlying racism in Australian society?

Is this why the far left do not see Che Guvara in the Chronulla protestor's emotion, let alone in the growing nationalist sentiment (from trade policy identity issues) in the Western world since the 90's, instead classing such phenomena as "far right racism" or "redneck"?

Is this why the Greens sympathise with non-Anglo ultra-nationalist, far far far right-winged bigoted intollerant redneck Palestinian terrorists, indeed true homophobes like Keysar Trad (http://www.stopwarcoalition.org/ ; http://www.zipworld.com.au/~josken/multim~1.htm)?

Is this why we hear a demand that consideration be given to the "underlying cause," i.e. the justified frustration, of jihadi terrorism, the implication being that kafir Westerner's are responsible for it, but reduce the Chronulla aggression to "racism," thereby denying environmental factors by insulating such aggression in a psychological disposition?

Is this why the so-called "educated" hate the less articulate for not adopting the same precision in their expression of concepts, and on those grounds ignoring all expression of genuine and justified frustration?

Is it simply (and this would indicate an intense lack of critical thought) that since the only discourse we have come across in our education system, pop songs, and general media regarding the word "racism" has been associated with Anglos, then the discourse gets taken for the real?

Whenever you’re unsure of when it is racial intolerance manifesting, look to institutional practices: arranged marriages, packs of youth of same ethnicity, a concern only for one ethnic group’s welfare, ethnocentric hysterical victimhood, the correlation between a conception of female sexuality and racial purity, panopticism, police reports of racially motivated attacks, etc., etc.

It is infuriating to hear today various Muslim spokespersons and youth workers say it is their youth who are acting in self-defense, and who the police are attacking more fiercely!

Such irony is the CAUSE of Sunday's protests.

Only time for a quick look at responses and yes to Boaz I have known plenty of bad Aussies my dear. Where I grew up in a typical Aussie working class area of northern Brisbane poeple crowded in the main street chucked rocks and bottles at Police cars that drove by on Friday night meets in the main street, gangs regularly beat each other with chains and spiked sticks and some even burned police bikes and cars ! Sorry maybe you grew up in a nicer part of town and missed all the action. Some of my class mates are probably still in jail for gang rape and that was twenty years ago but yes it was that bad back then with the Aussies too. Take off the rose coulored glasses young man.