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Advance Australia not so fair : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 13/12/2005

Irfan Yusuf argues after the Sydney riots it is now up to community leaders to provide real and lasting solutions.

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Bozzi, don’t be to hard on the police,
They are the foot soldiers that have become victims in the Elite battle of the Dumbest, not that in our politics at the moment you will find any Intelligence.
If you talk to them, off the record, mate (Metaphor) and if Australians realized exactly what is going on, then you would see a full on Revolution, I kid you not. Same for any western Nation.
Pre the Great Depression and its cause are a starting point, and the events which took place in Ego Socialist realms then and Civilities and economic annihilation or decline. Go back again in UK 1870 same thing Germany, well we know what happened. It is a Mirror image of today. It is only the beginning, and the left are sailing the Ship Destroyer again. We never learn.
Posted by All-, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 3:46:17 PM
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In my opinion Harry Quick Labor MP Franklin is a traitor to Australia ! (Interview on Sky News)

Ms Malaise

Have you ever in your life seen the 'notorious bra boys' gang role up to a TV reporter and scream at him/her "WE ARE GOING TO F*CK YOUR MOTHER" as all of us saw a car load of "Lebs" do on National TV yesterday ?

Have you ever known of Bra boys or even HELLS ANGELS shoot up a Police station with automatic weapons for revenge and to intimidate them ?

Have the Commanchero's or Outlaws bikie gangs ever over-run a local police station and threatened to rape their wives, kill them, etc etc ?

Have you ever head of a Lebanese girl being raped by a large gang of "Anglos' JUST' because she was Leb ? Can you point to any trial transcript ?

I have absolutely zero recollection of this kind of thing being done by ANYONE EXCEPT.. "Muslim males" of Bankstown/Punchbowl/Greenacre. I'm quite open to correction here, because I don't want to make an unbalanced post.

Looking at the cumulative picture, it is clear that there is a social cancer in the Lebanese community, which, if not rooted out and dealt with, will probably see a volatile future which will make the last weekend seem like 'childs play'.

It took a LOT to get America into WW2 and it takes A LOT to get Aussies 'going' but once it is started..... we will finish.

You and your Husband, look very closely at the people in the cars on TV and if you or anyone knows them, report them IMMEDIATELY to police and then ostracize them from the community, it will probably save their lives.

My greatest fear about inadequate social/migration/cultural policy is WHAT HAPPENED last weekend, a knee jerk spontaneous reaction of rage.

Dolphin.. almost readable, but unbalanced. Did you see the Lebs in the car shrieking racist anti-anglo hate this morning? why no mention in your post ?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 4:10:27 PM
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This whole thing is crazy. Both sides are to blame, no matter who supposedly 'started it'. The ramifications of this is very worrying, particularly when a Perth family 'of middle eastern appearance' has been terrorised in their home within the last 24 hours or so. I am particularly concerned about the reports of racist t-shirts, chanting and neo-nazi group members being in attendance at that so-called rally. Indeed the reports of youths from 'middle eastern' backgrounds hassling women, bashing life savers, and retaliating voilently in the last two days is horrifying also. Anglo (male)youth sometimes hassle or rape women, bash life savers and retaliate violently also. There are stories of battles between "surfies and clubbies (surf life savers)" in beach suburb legend. (.. and thats on both sides of the country) What about the stories of "surfies V westies, in the days when "westies" were predominately ' anglo-aussies? My point is , its terrible no matter who does it or who starts it.
Posted by silent minority, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 4:56:22 PM
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Bd, there is a social cancer in religion throughout the world. Wasn't it you that posted a link to the Cronulla surf club to organise support on the beach for last weekend. Its not culture= that is the problem but religious culture. The only way to stop this, is to ban religious expression and support for foreign cultural standards.

I doubt that many actually understand what is happening and what is to come, it has not started yet. The depth of feeling within religious communities together with the cultural hate between different religious and ethnic factions is growing.

We have been manipulated into this situation by the politically correct and the right wing has supported then so that they could bring about this situation. From there, it will be more laws and suppression. This will inflame the religious, particularly those that have ties to other places.

Sadly the only way forward is for the government to suppress freedom of speech, instead they should be suppressing freedom of religious pressure and persecution of the majority, that realise the evil of religions.
Posted by The alchemist, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 5:05:58 PM
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Think I've said this a couple of times on this site.
After the genocide used to displace the aborigines hsurely the British can't complain about the odd bit of resistance 200 years later.

By the way notice how people of Northern European origin are called "white", meaning they can be seen as belonging to any country they frequent. The rest are, in general attributed to the country of their racial origin, or at least perceived racial origin.
Posted by savoir68, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 5:32:14 PM
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The word "Australian" continues to be a cultural synonym for white.

The word ethnic continues to be a cultural synonym for those who are not considered to be Australian.

I'm not the least bit surprised by these riots, they happen everyday in a smaller scale somewhere and at sometime in this nation.

And for heavens sake, what is white Australian and what are its inherent values anyway? I’ve asked this a million times with no definitive answer by those who purport to know and practice it and who want to protect it from the so called incursions of non-white peoples.

It is the lack of clarity around 'whiteness' as Australianess in this forum and in media coverage about these riots that go uncontested and unanswered.

Is anyone here willing to define Australian national identity, culture, values in ways that don’t solely depend on trotting out those same tired old arguments that tell us what and who it is not?

Or is this perpetual absence of nquintessentially what it means to be Australian? If yes, then simply admitting it would be a great start to fixing it.
Posted by Rainier, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 5:32:29 PM
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