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Advance Australia not so fair : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 13/12/2005

Irfan Yusuf argues after the Sydney riots it is now up to community leaders to provide real and lasting solutions.

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Community leaders huh, well think about this. Australians are not exsactly the most religious devout sort "generally speaking" but immigrants are usually dovout to their gods.

A variety of Immigrants from day to day in different groups have continiously defiled our rules and justice system and continuously pushed residents and communities into fear.

Australians are starting to get tired of this behavior and are now generalising due to the years of migrant youths attacking public property and are striking back generaliseing on appearance, will they turn their attention to a more religious approach on some sort of crusade or a more ideological revoltuonary one.

Community leaders is not an answer, it is only a delay untill another outbreak occurs and someone has the courage to mobalise a strike force. Change is needed on a fedeal level and if not done correctly it may do more damage than good.
Posted by Hannibal Barca, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 12:30:54 PM
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No, Irf, it is NOT up to community leaders to provide real and lasting solutions - only real everyday people (the plain Janes and Average Joe, or Ibrahim if you will) that can resolve these problems. The leaders always act in their best interests or what they think are their best interests.

I don't give a mole on a rat's arse what any leader says - or much less, what he/she tells me what to do.

I am very pessimistic about the future, but it is kind of exciting in a macabre way. History unfolding before our eyes, and in fast motion too (wow!). I have given this whole issue a lot of thought this last year, and I really don't think there is anything that anybody can do to change or "fix" things. The future may not be pretty.

Once again, thanks for that article on Copts at altmuslim.

John
Posted by kactuz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 1:05:46 PM
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Funny how the Polls on the riots don't have a tick-the-box for overpopulation or lousy State Government services like trains that don't run to schedule.

Time and again you hear Shire people saying that immigration is out of control. We have a State Government run by Italian descendants, shoehorned into office in safe seats, who are hell bent on populating this city with immigrants for their own power and profit.

For example, we don't need a desal plant or massive Botany Vegas developments for the benefit of a few favoured businessmen. We want social services and we want democratic equality.

The free ride PROCESS of developing infrastructure at public cost, at the expense of democratic values and at the expense of badly needed services, just so a million more Sydney homes can be built by rich Labor supporting developers is abhorrent. NO ONE except Morris Iemma and his goodfellas want these homes or the social unrest they will bring to us all.

There is a cost to this PROCESS. That cost is civil unrest and until the Carr/Iemma government is dealt a crushing blow by the NSW electorate John Howard's senile prediction that this is just a law and order issue will be just as lame as his hope for a win at the next election.

If you want to stop Sydney riots, don't build 1,000,000 new homes. Don't pour petrol on a grass fire
Posted by KAEP, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 1:58:34 PM
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Viva Botany Vegas

Bright light Sydney gonna set my soul
Gonna set my soul on fire
Taxed a whole lot of community and it's ready to burn,
So get those stakes up higher

There's a thousand pretty women waitin' out there
And we're all livin', the electorate may care
And I'm just the devil with love to spare

Viva Botany Vegas, Viva Botany Vegas

How I wish that there were more
Than the twenty-four hours in the day
'Cause even if there were forty more
I couldn't make the State's problems go away

Oh, there's black jack and poker and the roulette wheel
A fortune won and lost on ev'ry deal
All you need's a strong heart and a nerve of steal

Viva Botany Vegas, Viva Botany Vegas

Viva Botany Vegas with you neon flashin'
And your one armbandits crashin'
All those hopes go down the drain

Viva Botany Vegas turnin' day into nighttime
Turnin' night into daytime
If you see it once
You'll never be the same again

I'm gonna keep on the desal
I'm gonna have me a new pal
If it costs you your very last dime
If you wind up broke
I'll always remember that I had a swingin' time

I'm gonna give it ev'rything I've got
Next election, please let the dice stay hot
Let me shout a suit with ev'ry shot

Viva Botany Vegas, Viva Botany Vegas,

Viva, Viva Botany Vegas

And remember kiddies, Keep left unless SPEEDING - Nod Nod Wink wink!
Posted by KAEP, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 2:00:10 PM
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Why were the police in numbers to beat up the Aussie boofheads but not around when the Lebanese thugs were smashing everything they came across?
How much of this terrible business do we have to take before the powers that be understand that multiculture does not and never has worked?
When will they ever realise that allowing immigration of people who will never assimilate into the ethos of Australia is so wrong?
Thirty years of tragic immigration mismanagement is now bubbling to the surface. In time we will have to have the military patrolling the streets as happens in [other] Middle Eastern countries.
Irfan and other muslim spokespersons are a big part of the problem because they refuse to see or admit that their people are not adaptable to Western societies, their cultures are far too extreme and different. This is where the whole problem is.
Posted by mickijo, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 2:51:10 PM
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I am a local government politician in a western Sydney suburb and I am married to an Arab. We have a population of around 25% Lebanese/Arabs speaking people. We are around a 30/40 min drive from the trouble spots of the recent race riots.


Yes there are some badly behaved Lebanese people and I understand Australian people, of all nationalities and backgrounds, fear a terrorist attack, that does not however justify violence against innocent people or particular ethnic groups. And yes there were some Lebanese young men behaving badly down at Cronulla beach recently and in Bankstown and wherever these boys live and frequent. And of course there will be Lebanese criminals in Bankstown, that's where lots of Lebanese live. Just like the majority of criminals in Anglo areas such as Gosford or Newcastle will be Anglo because lots of Anglo people live in those areas, this is not hard maths to work out.

It seems that if your part of a particular ethnic group there is an expectation of a higher standard of social behaviour. This has been termed as a two-tiered citizenship approach. The height of the bar is lowered for the social behaviour of Anglos in Australia yet seems to be considerably higher for those of an ethnic background particularly those from the Middle East. Anglo's can steal, rape and misdemeanour and be dealt with within the legal system as anyone will be but those of ethnic background (non-Anglo) seem to have to face the 'public media trial' for their crimes, adding an extra dimension of punishment and humiliation for the group as a whole
Posted by Ms. Malaise, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 3:04:20 PM
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