Boaz, it is with some sorrow that I have to point out that you must shoulder some of the responsibility for this weekend's atrocities in Sydney.

>>Who's fault is this ? The initiators or those simply reacting ? One is drawn to believe it is the 'initiators'.<<

As I have mentioned on a number of occasions, this is exactly what happens when you stir up the dirt, with your sophisticated religiosity and dispassionate intellectualizing. Mosley did it in Britain in the thirties, and then stood back in hurt surprise when the thugs took over.

You cannot be part of the solution, thanks to the way you see your religion, but it would be really neat if you recognized that you are being part of the problem by fanning the flames of hatred with your regular anti-muslim diatribes.

And tell me how "Australian" it is for mobs to roam the streets looking for "people of Middle Eastern appearance" with the intention to beat them up?

I think Con needs to talk to his parents about how they were recieved when the WOGS started turning up in OUR country.

NB. Sorry for any offence caused by the use of the word Wog just trying to remind the author it is easy to label people.

Also it was stated "They will also tell you, that the war in Afghanistan and in Iraq is occupation and colonisation by the American led coalition, and not a war against global terror." I would say that a large number of westerns think the same thing chap.

Well said Pericles.

Not that I have a problem with anyone needing religion, but using it as an excuse to incite fear and hatred is something I suspect Jesus might not have liked.

In fact, using anything at all as an excuse to incite fear and hatred is cowardly and results in rubbish like the mess we saw on the weekend.

There's very little logic going on here. It's sad that so many people of all colours and ethnicities are living with chronic fear.

Kactuz,

Correct. The Muslim problem is really one where the singer is not necessarily bad, but the song stinks.

"There may be moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." (Ibn Warraq)

Re Race Riots:

A case of the silent majority saying enough is enough and bringing down their own form of Justice after years of oppression by middle eastern gangs over other youth.

An example of a similar event was in 1994, It was again a case of a minority group ruling the streets and oppressing the remainder of the people. This happenned for years until their was a severe bashing of an elderley man who happened to be a brother of the leader of a prominent 'Aussie' motorcycle gang. Enough was then enough. A gang of white vigilante men began combing the streets, pubs, and shops bashing every last person of this minority, linked or not to the attack, until the minority was driven underground into hiding and never effect these people again. in 11 years the streets are still quiet. A possible extreme scenario we are moving towards?

This was going to come to head one day, and it looks like it is not over, for now extremity after extremity will occur with revenge as a motive, until we wind back the clock to our segregated attitudes in the 1960's.

These current youths have until now been free to oppress by being in large numbers, with a core reason of needing to feel powerful over other people.

Australian society is underpinned unfortunately by white anglo saxons with their own version of extremism, many feeling upset at how they are dominated and treated by these middle eastern groups, but lack the gang mentality of a minority group. therefore when this silent majority stand up, it is in response to continued and blatant injustices being carried out on those who do not ask for it.

I am sorry for you all, but i am afraid for what will come next. the next middle eastern extremity will bring in fringe groups like Motorcycle gangs and white extremests, who have an arsenal and a ability greater than fresh faced young white boys for destruction.

Welcome to the correction of society, and the changing of the guard on the streets.

Cronulla- Lebanese muslims are to blame for yesterdays riots- I used to wonder how things like Kosovo could gain public suppport. Now I know. The Aussies have bloody well had enough and its about time we stood up to thse lebanes bastards- They rape our women, they are gutles- they will only fight when they are armed or outnumber the opposition. So good on the boys at Cronulla, Thank you to the Bra boys at Maroubra- Keep strong, no-one else out there is protecting our culture. The police and government stick their bloody heads in the sand and don't want to appear racist- Bloody hell, who is racist? I have had my wife called "aussie slut" my daughter called "skippy slut" just for daring to walk down the street in Cronulla. Thank god at last our boys have had enough. Remember guys, stick together, they will use guns, knives etc, because they are gutless, you must stay vigilant and safety in numbers. Watch out for car loads of leb's, have a code for help and be ready at all times to help your brothers. You are your brothers keeper, noone else is.