I can even sympathize with Muslims when people question their sincerity, and even their loyalty. It must be difficult. However, let me explain why I am very skeptical about Muslims 'condemnations of terror'.

I do not know what is in the hearts and minds of any Muslim. I do know what Muslim's do whereever they are a majority - and it ain't pretty. The fact is that wherever Islam dominates, other religions as well as women and other groups are discriminated against and persecuted.
Based upon this simple fact, I have every right to doubt the honesty and sincerity of Muslims. We cannot put our families and civilization in jeopardy just because something hurts your feelings. Tough! Based upon Islamic countries and websites, there is no doubt that if Muslims ever control a Western country, out goes personal freedom, and in comes sharia law, persecution, hate, anger, killings, and all the other things that bring such joy to the hearts of so many Muslims.

So, I couldn't care less what Muslims say or how many times they condemn terror. The only valid clue to what Muslims really believe is how they treat people where they are a majority. In case you haven't noticed, they don't even treat other Muslims very well. So quit blaming it on everybody else and take a good, hard look at your religion, your sacred writings and even the life of your prophet.

When Islamic coutries permit Christian and Buddhist missionaries to walk the streets of Libya and Iran, when non-Muslims have exactly the same rights as Muslims do in all Islamic countries, when women can drive and vote in Arabia, when little girls are not pushed back into buring building because their knees may show, when Copts are not killed and kidnapped by Muslims in Eqypt, when people can openly criticize the life of Mohammud, when men who commit honor slayings are condemned to 30 years, etc... (and so on, you get the idea) THEN we can assume that Muslims are really against terror.

Does anybody have a problem with this?

Sometimes a ray of light appears that gives hope and exposes darkness; it is not the exclusive domain of any person, religion or ideology. This light is the true light that shines from the moral designer of the human mind. Ifran has managed to glimpse that light and reflect it to others. This light is not contained in blame but in forgiveness: it is not contained in a truce but in unconditional reconciliation. It is not contained in controlling others, but serving each other.

Now consider Him that both began and finished in the struggle of life, who endured false accusations laid against him, ignoring the igminious shame of a Roman death on a cross; he submitted to his blood being shed, because He saw a future for those that received the light. Consider Him! His death was the catalyst to bring new life and hope to an angry world.

kactuz presents a very bleak view, another frghtening conspiratorial view is presented by:
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/rise-of-g8-new-world-order.html.

I like the cartoon of Bush shown, however, it is like any other conspiratorial theory, it bears a degree of logic but has no evidence to back it up.

I think though that generally ordinary people wish to live in peaceful co-existance; disharmony is created through those seeking power, economic advantage, or seeking to change religious convictions.

(RObert, just to clarify, the "Christian claims" I refered to were actually just research into the Qu'ran, conducted by Christians, which is why I used that particular site in my last post. I have since put the post up on Waleed Aly's article. The reason I posted it here was, if someone condemns Muslim terrorist attacks, but support the Qu'ran because they are a Muslim, then I would appreciate the apparent paradox to be reconciled.)

Is anyone else here really scared about what's going on?
It's not just the fanatics trying to blow us all up but the response from powerful men like Bush saying things like 'they want to spread their ideology but we will spread ours' eh - does he mean democracy or Christianity?
For the first time in my life I am actually deeply worried about tomorrow, justified or more irrational hysteria?

What needs to be explained are the immoral deeds of Prophet Muhammad. While there are some 'soft' teachings in the Koran, there are also many troubling ones. Prophet Muhammad massacred an entire Jewish tribe, stole their goods, sold the women and children. He ordered the stoning of a young single mother, as well as sanctioned torture ie chopping limbs and finger tips. He and his gang murdered, raped, pillaged and ransacked until he had complete power. The problem with the story of Muhammad, is that he started out quite benevolent. When he had amassed enough wealth and army, he degenerated into a ruthless warmongerer. He eventually died cursing the Jews and Christians. What chance does Islam have while the main character behaves like this? Most muslims are unaware of what he did. His wives also included a 9 year old and the wife of his adopted son and a jewish woman whom he 'married' after having her father and husband killed. Anyone who reads the Koran, the Hadithes and the life story of Muhammad will eventually get the picture of a psychopathic terrorist. We need to stand up and call a spade a spade and stop this smokesceen of political correctness and fear of critism and debate!