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To London Muslims - speak out or be condemned for your silence : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 8/7/2005

Irfan Yusuf sends a message to London Muslims in the wake of the terrorist bombings across the city.

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Of course a yes/no response isn't going to happen Di, there are many possible reasons and the binary option strips the diverse meanings:

Yes, failure to do so is tacit support for terrorism.
Yes, they are part of Islam and have an obligation to reform it.
Yes, for pragmatic reasons.
No, because if applied generally moderates throughout the world would never find the time to eat, drink or sleep.
No, they're not responsible for the actions of others.
Posted by Deuc, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:57:37 PM
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Deuc, awesome summary. I'm with you on this both ways.

Nobody should have to explain themselves because of the actions of others but sometimes it makes really good sense to do so.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 21 July 2005 8:34:12 PM
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So Deuc, is that a yes or a no or a binary? Philo, get over yourself about spinster feminists/wives. Don't you think this particlart forum deserves a vote either or to sum it up rather than disappearing into the too tired basket? Considering all the input. Let's lean on our dominoes here and come to a concise decision!
Posted by Di, Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:44:51 PM
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Given what is happening now, I don't think this thread is going to end up in the basket just yet.

If you really want an answer though, without me telling you why, then here it is:

"Should garden variety muslims have to march and publicly condemn or not?"

No.
Posted by Deuc, Thursday, 21 July 2005 11:53:52 PM
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I do not believe morally responsible persons have to bear the guilt of their brothers. However someone must speak up to show that things are being done to change the behaviour within the family, and that degenerate brothers must show sincere evidence they are conforming to the family values and traditions. If the basis of values and traditions of the family violate other families rights then the whole family must be brought into line by the larger society. Educate, assimilate, cooperate otherwise violence will continue. No one wants a violent family next door that continually undermines their security, peace, and wellbeing. We either ostracise, remove, or attempt to modify their behaviour from within their motivating / philosophical basis. This is done with good intention by education; or threat by the imposition of penalty.
Posted by Philo, Friday, 22 July 2005 8:06:29 AM
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Really a damn shame!

Why are Muslims so quiet when it comes to condemning terrorism in their name?

Could it be that most Muslims are closet Wahhabi thugs?

Could it be that most Muslims are not sure whether Islam teaches love or hate?

Could it be that most Muslims are only in Islam because they want to see virgins in the next life?

Or that they want to be plain and simple monotheists who dislike the Trinity?

I see the bulk of Muslims are selfish and are through their sins of omission, helping terrorists who do evil in their name.

The Muslim ummah should be banned and all Muslims deserve to be persecuted!

Perhaps, it's not such a wicked idea for John, Tony and George to ban Islam, conquer all Muslim lands, treat Muslims the way Karl Marx treated them, and make them re-start Islam again based on the true Islamic teachings in the Quran and Sunnah.

I really feel that Islamdom ought to be destroyed and rebuilt from scratch because the bulk of Muslims do not love Islam and their own selves.

The bulk of Muslims helps terrorists. The bulk of Muslims wants the White Bastard to kill him and persecute him.

Perhaps, something good will come out of this.

God save Islam from Muslims. God destroy Islamdom and make the whole world including non-Muslims rebuild Islamdom anew.
Posted by chua, Monday, 30 October 2006 8:16:43 PM
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