Di ... dreamer ? :) YES.... and one living in Fantasyland dear....
John lennons song "imagine" is one of the most shallow, dishonest(or plain ignorant), crude and time wasting efforts of musicla lyrics I've ever come across, not to mention 'unworkable and not a true portrayal of either human nature of history'.

Ifan, I applaud 'your' call, and support you. I only have that little niggling voice deep inside which says "Irfan is a great guy, says all the right things, wouldn't hurt a fly" but unfortunately "Irfan is not the agenda driver in Islam". I won't revisit that issue :) Still, to the extent you can raise awareness of the need to be peaceful, it's helpful.
I do find it a tiny bit out of character with the founder and foundations of Islam, as I've outlined in other places, but enuf of that for now.

"good on ya moit"

Now, back to Di.- If the values of "imagine" were followed, there would be total chaos. "Imagine all the people, living for today" yeah RIGHT... "Hedonism, pleasure,riches, me me meeeeeeeeeeeeeee...." living for today. There is no tomorrow, so why worry about it, fill your life and mind with sensuality, with existentially mind blowing experiences of ultimate intensity.. etc. That is the LOGICAL outcome (though not the 'practical-in-the-context-of-culture' one.) Reference to that song is like a red rag to an angry bull with me.

Its like throwing the 'one' of the latest fad toys into a group of preschoolers and singing "Imagine how they will share"..... duh.

kalweb, did you as a moderate, protest when Australia became embroilled in Iraq looking for the mythical weapons of mass destruction?
Clearly, the bombings in London were an act of extreme barbarism.

Just like there are great Westerners, there are great Muslims also. Conversely, there are terrible Muslims and Westerners

I like Yusuf's message. Hopefully many people will get it.

With Di, I reckon that Lennon's message is particularly appropriate right now. However, despite the millions of people all over the world who treasure the song 'Imagine' and the vision it expresses, there are obviously plenty who will never get it.

They are the fundamentalists, who enact hatred in the name of whatever ideology has them in its sway. Poor them - and poor us because their hatred for each other tends to conscript the rest of us collaterally.

John Lennon sang and wrote about love and peace. Fundamentalists talk hypocritically about peace, and love to fight with other fundamentalists.

Imagine...

Well said Ifan.Many in our society don't realise that your words are those of a very courageous man.Ifan is one of the few who has the courage to speak out.If more would do likewise ,then the terroriests will be starved of oxygen.

Don't read so much into that one line BD, there's only so many words you can fit into a few minutes. Forget the pain & conflict of the past and don't waste today by fixating on future affairs. Perhaps you will relate to this better:

"Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."

Regarding the London Islamic community anger against the recent London bombings, it is not surprising that they would be unhappy over it. Even taking the side of the pro-American and Israeli argument against the majority of Middle-East Arabs is also not surprising. No doubt these Islamic communities had decided to move to the West, hoping their descendents would become in time as Western as many other Islamic migrants, some even still retaining their Islamic faith. And certainly the resultant multiculturalism has been both enlightening and beneficial to the country of adoption.

Viewing the whole global Islamic community of one and a quarter million, however, the mind boggles to think of the majority of the Moslem world ever adopting the Western way of life, especially the adoption of Western-style democracy, as America is almost desperately now attempting to press on them without much success.

Having decided to adopt Western citizenry as tens of thousands Islamics already have, there is the problem of the newer arrivals not appearing patriotic to their new country of adoption. The point we must arrive at here, is that Western leaders with any common decency should not be using these people to back up their arguments against Islamic terrorism, or what many political scientists term, Islamic-backed -Arabic payback or blowback against Western injustices, which can easily be proven by an intense study of British and American neo-colonialism in the Middle-East alone since WW2. It is a pity the more seamy sides of British and American economic adventurism in the ME is not taught in our primary schools as it is taught in our universities.

George C - WA - Bushbred