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The case for assimilation : Comments

By John Stone, published 19/8/2005

John Stone argues the government must address Australia's growing Muslim problem.

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G'day everyone!

Well, to say the least, I am in absolute shock! Indeed I feel quite sick about what I have just read.

I went to the Domain > Faris QC > "Muslims Must Become Aussies Now". I couldn't believe the hostility/come hatred that I was reading from around 130 or so posters.

I have some very real problems with Islamic faith and its Muslim folowers, but I don't hate and I am not hostile. It is worth visiting this Blog to see and feel the groundswell of hatred. I am not suggesting that you will enjoy it, but it may give some people another view of we Aussies.

Some posters on Online Opinion can get stroppy etc at times. Compared to the Faris Blog site - they are just babies.

I will be interested to read your thoughts if you do go to the above.

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Sunday, 21 August 2005 5:56:59 PM
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When you think about it, most of the posts are relevant information in understanding how people feel about this subject.

If we look at it from a historical aspect, you begin to see there may be a problem. We all know how well religion assimilates with those countries they move into. Some good examples are, our own country, Africa, the far east, the pacific, America's, in fact everywhere.

We all know how well the christians assimilated with the Australian aboriginies, don't we. Firstly they enter a country in small numbers, then they establish their communities, slowly increase their numbers and influence, terrorise and then take over and make the populance submit to their religious culture. It is called evangelism and the tactics are well known, all religions use them

There is nothing wrong with the people that come to this country who wish to become responsible members of it and adhere to our laws and ways of life. But when they try to bring their religious culture into it and demand more and more, using aggressive tactics, then problems begin. We can see that happening around the world at the moment, from all sides.

That is what we must look at, not the lovely individuals that have their own beleifs that come here, but the culture that is attached to their religion. Non religious culture that has been introduced to this country, has enhanced it greatly and we see that in entertainment, business, and especially the cuisine we now have. Much better than 3 veg and meat, or deep fried to death.

So we have to decide as to whether we want a comfortable diverse cultural country, or enforced religious cultural war, then suppression. All religions believe in the same god and use the same tactics, thats how bizarre and dangerous they are, they fight over the same thing and we suffer.
Posted by The alchemist, Sunday, 21 August 2005 6:19:01 PM
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Yes ,we have another -ism called strayanism.ie living in denial of reality.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 21 August 2005 7:38:37 PM
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Arjay, Justin, Davo and others

Can you please read my post above, go to the site, and tell me what you think? I will be very interested.

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Sunday, 21 August 2005 8:18:54 PM
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The fact you feel threatened by Muslim-Australian citizens participating in society, does not mean the rest of us feel the same. That is the difference between your reality and my reality Arjay. I support political participation, you feel as though your ownership of Australia under threat. You feel as though Australia is being attacked, because you can hear an alternate voice, by the mere presence of another socially constructed 'group'. That's what stereotyping does, constructs groups as somehow being different, competeting against each other - it allows you to reassure yourself that the problem lies outside the dominant group. That's when you end up with Stone's imaginary "Muslim problem".
Posted by strayan, Sunday, 21 August 2005 9:07:17 PM
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The amount of misinformation given by some is stunning.

1. The problem is not racial it is based in ideological intolerance and totalitarianism. The same ideological intolerance occurs in the minds of the extreme anti-religious who would if they had a chance impose upon all their ideology. The level of hatred expressed indicates the level of passion with which they would impose upon those who do not conform to their view.

2. Some pretend that missionaries deliberately settled and inhabited Australia with the purpose of indoctrinating the indigenous people to become Christian. The fact is Australia was settled originally by the British as a penal colony not as a missionary outpost to indigenous people. Deliberate misinformation!

3. Missionary work done in other countries is not done as a migration programme. Missionaries teach and train local people in life skills, like orphanages, nursing, medicine, agriculture, building as well as faith etc. Non-indigenous missionaries leave it to the locally trained people to carry on the work. This is not what is happening with Muslim migrants who intend to set up their family, religion and culture on Australian soil by migration.

4. Transmigration in the formerly 95% Christian West Papua has been happening as 6,000 Muslim migrants each day are settled in West Papua, and the genocide of the 16,000 indigenous people has and is happening at the Muslim militia’s hands.

5. The true practise of the Christian faith does not incite criminal activity; it should encourage forgiveness and tolerance to opposition. That we oppose the criminalisation of established moral values should not incite criminal behaviour if the person is morally responsible. Only persons with criminal intent will resort to terror if they cannot dominate others
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 21 August 2005 9:13:58 PM
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