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Should NATO enter the Russian-Ukrainian fray? : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 25/3/2022

It is hard to describe the excruciatingly painful destruction Putin is inflicting on Ukraine.

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Mox,

I just want to see Russians and Ukranians enjoy peaceful and prosperous lives. Putin and his gangsters have delivered ruin and misery. You are doing your bit for Putin, but regardless of our differing opinions, it is a military conflict that will settle the argument. The Ukranians are becoming more effective as an army. They are demonstrating an ability to destroy Russian artillery, and drones are allowing a more efficient destruction of the Russian army.

If the Russian army lasts a few more months in Ukraine it could suffer greater casualties than the Americans did in Vietnam. Hopefully Putin will cop a bullet long before that happens.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 27 March 2022 1:03:35 PM
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Mox,

" Re one alternative US based news source which the "establishment' there strongly dislikes, watch updates www.veteranstoday.com. Its primary aim is to look after interests of US military veterans. "

Oh dear. Veterans Today is a fake news site that primarily pushes anti-Semitic conspiracy hoaxes. It pushes the notion that the 9/11 buildings were bought down by 'the Jooos". Predictably it denies the Holocaust.

Even the head of this fake site has admitted that 30% of the site is obviously false and a further 40% is purposely partly false.

And unfortunately, this is the least unreliable of the sites Mox pushes.

Oh dear.

Seems like the Russian apologists have gone from declaring that the Russian war aims were to demilitarise Ukraine and get rid of the Nazi drug-addicted government to, now, just 'freeing' Donbass'. That by itself tells you how badly things are going for Putin's legions.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 27 March 2022 2:07:00 PM
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Whatever the fortunes of the Russian military are, Europe is helping pay for them by spending $1 billion a day for Russian coal, oil and gas. Russia is insisting on payment in roubles from next week, which will improve the rating of the rouble.

And, here's a laugh. Ukraine has stopped 'Trans Women' refugees from leaving, telling them that they are men and must fight.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 27 March 2022 2:11:35 PM
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Mox

Rubbish. You've backed a loser.

They failed in the north ... even in Kharkiv.
Putin is doing was Hittler did at Leningrad.

Failed in South ... can't even take Odessa.

In Dondas, after decimation,in the north, they'll face the Ukrainian military. .

ttbn

Nothing you spout has any credence.
You have shown yourself to be acompletely empty vassal.

Of course you don't recognise personal abuse. It's impossible with your exhibited extraordinarily low comprehensive ability. It is severely retarded.

Jesus, if the Russia military is as decrepit as it has proved, what the hell are its nukes like? The yanks won't go to war with them. That's not their history in involvement in Europe. Look at their late entry in WW11. They waited till the Russians had beaten the nazi invasion of the USSR before D Day.

You don't have to be privy to see how stuffed Russia's military has become.

Nukes?I don't think so. Mere fear mongering. They are old technology and the Yanks haven't bothered updating theirs.

You would have to ask why.

The Yanks have a nuke defence. Trump landed it when the Russians and Chinese boasted they had Mach 4 speed nukes. The us landed its spacecraft. It had been in space for over 2 years and had no solar panels. It entered the atmosphere and navigated in loops and aerobatics at Mach 12 speeds, before it landed and was relaunched within weeks.

Explore the technology required to do that. Propulsion, power source, communications etc

The money Europe and the US is nothing now. Russia relies on Ukraine for WHEAT. Russia will starve because of Putin's stupidity.

Only trans women and the likes of the US Democrats think trans women are not men. What you should focus on is the numbers of Ukrainian women staying to fight beside their men.

For you to pretend you are a liberal minded person who supports trans people is an atrocity. Sort of puts you in some remarkable company. US Democrats like AOC's quad.

hohohoho that really tickled my fancy.

Russian oil and gas will pay for all reparations..
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 27 March 2022 6:07:50 PM
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I wonder how long it'll be before we get to hear what this conflict is really all about !
Many Putin condemners may just start to do a 180 once it is realised !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 27 March 2022 6:53:37 PM
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Bar a sparse few, I think that most will view it as unprovoked Russian military aggression as it was with the Prague Spring.

IJN

The Ukranians are not yet able to launch a large counteroffensive and the Russians are desperate to keep it that way by targeting fuel supplies, which is why Zalensky wants better air defences. I am sure that Biden's military advisers are screaming at him to provide more military aid. As it is I think the Ukranian forces will prevail, but it will take longer and cause more suffering while Biden and Nato dithers.

Hasbeen

I think the war has inspired a fair amount of unity against Russian aggression, but I agree with you that old squabbles are a curse.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 27 March 2022 7:26:45 PM
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