"Israel bashers" is too nice a description for anti-Semites.

Why don't you produce an accurate set of maps then,
That shows the land Israel controls at 5 year intervals
And then stop complaining about what others or doing year after year David?

The worst terrorist state in the world. Israel.

Sorry, David.

This was art, to demonstrate a point,i.e., that the Israel of today is much larger than the 1947 boundaries! And as such fair comment about the illegal land grabs by an occupying entity!

And everyone including many fair-minded Jews, knows it! And are so over the endless bloodshed! Just to make a few fat cats, fatter!

I'm waiting for, I believe, a patently corrupt and warmongering Netanyahu to be outed as PM, so a two-state peace plan can be put back on the table. The Ottoman Empire may have considered that Palestine was their territory? However, Palestine had a very different view, that made it part of the Ottoman Empire, any more than ancient Israel considered itself part of Rome

! The fact that you think different tells us a lot about you and your ethical morality! A few bits of chicken scratchings on paper may make something technically legal? Bu then any conqueror can claim whatever they like, including the ownership of the bodies of the conquered!

What comes next from the pen of the Devil's advocate? the justification of enslavement perhaps?

Please tell us what's your reasonable objection to a two-state solution and peaceful cohabitation? And leave it the usual humbug, I believe, that describes the bulk of your contributions, thus far.
Without bias, Alan B.

No Saladins on the horizon then?

Dan

"A two state solution?" Like, you are kidding, Alan B?

In 1936, the British tried to implement a two state solution to the thorny problem of which culture would run Palestine. Because the British realised that "Two peoples, Jews and Arabs, wanted to govern the same land." The solution, proposed the British, was a two state solution, with the Arabs holding 80% of the territory and the Jews a measly 20% The Jews voted "yes" and the Muslims said (surprise, surprise) "no."

1947 saw the British asking the UN to resolve the conflict. The UN proposed a two state solution. The Jews voted to accept the proposal, the Arabs (surprise, surprise) firmly rejected it, and the independent Arab countries declared war. Israel won.

1967 saw Egypt, Jordan, and Syria awash with Soviet supplied weaponry, invade Israel to "wipe it off the map." Israel won and took more territory, which it offered back to it's enemies in exchange for peace. The Arab League met in Khartoum and issued the infamous "Three No's" No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiation with Israel.

In 2000, the Israeli PM, Ehud Barak, and Yassar Arafat met at Camp David under the sponsorship of Bill Clinton. Barak offered the PLO chairman a two state solution with the PLO controlling all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank. Clinton later said that Arafat spent the entire 14 days saying "no" to everything.

In 2008, the Israelis offered the same deal, with additional lands thrown in a sweetener. Palestinian Authority Mahmood Abbas rejected the proposal.

Try and get it through your impervious skull and into your vestigial brain, Alan B, that nothing less than the complete destruction of Israel is what the Arab Muslims demand.

HAMAS leader Mahmoud al-Zahar has said, "HAMAS would definitely not be prepared to co exist with Israel even if the Zionists returned to their pre 1969 borders."

What's it like down in the garden, dancing with the fairies with Foxy and Yuyutsu, Alan?