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Jerusalem: a flashpoint for conflict or microcosm of peace : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 14/5/2021

There will be no Israeli-Palestinian peace unless East Jerusalem becomes the capital of a Palestinian state while the city remains united.

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Truth is Israel is probably glad one of their own copped it, because it creates a context for retaliation.
- And that's all it cares about - furthering it's national agendas.
Israel doesn't really care about that one girl.
- Her death is a price its gladly willing to pay, because if it wasn't:
- Then the government wouldn't continue to follow the course that it does.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 20 May 2021 11:35:03 AM
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'You kill one of us, we'll kill 10 on you'
Armchair Critic,
The Palestinians can easily put a stop to this imbalance, alas !
Posted by individual, Thursday, 20 May 2021 2:02:04 PM
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AC

That's despicable.

Israel has gone out of its way to protect its civilians whereas Hamas has done nothing.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 20 May 2021 2:27:14 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Utter tripe yet again.

You prattled on with: “You just assumed I didn't know it was from 2014. No evidence - just a giant leap to conclusion. How very SR of you.”

Mate, you prefaced the quote with these very words:

“Re the downed building and who was actually there...”

The building wasn't downed in 2014 was it.

And I can just imagine your take on the Yom Kipper War. The Egyptians and Syrians were attempting to regain the land stolen by Israel during the Six Day War six years before. A war mind you that was entirely started by Israeli 'per-emptive' aggression.

Within two years of Yom Kipper Israel was forced to agree to hand back the Sinai at the negotiating table. This was despite grandiose plans for it within some sections of the Israeli government.

As to this call to Rache: “I can't help but notice no acknowledgement of dead Jewish kids.”

Just nick off. There was absolutely no acknowledgement by you of the extraordinary long list of Palestinians including women and children who died that night on a busy street in Gaza. Yet here you are calling out someone else for not speaking to a 5% of that figure who were Israeli casualties.

What a hypocritical tosser.

Dear Armchair Critic,

The Israeli government has been doing it for years. They deliberately put their citizens in harms way by having them settled in the occupied territories and when they are wounded or killed it is an excuse for home demolitions and further land acquisitions. What a venal lot they are.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 20 May 2021 2:31:40 PM
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SR,

Its always fun to watch you unravel as you come to realise that you've been exposed again as less than erudite.

"Mate, you prefaced the quote with these very words:“Re the downed building and who was actually there...” The building wasn't downed in 2014 was it.

I'm sure you think there's some logic in that, but you'd be wrong.Actually I think you know you're wrong but as we've seen so often you'd prefer to look the clown than admit error.

I wrote about Yom Kippur from the point of view of its strategic and tactical brilliance.Although Israel was aware that a war of aggression was planned by the coalition of Arab enemies, they were nonetheless caught off guard and initially pushed back on all fronts. But through the quality of their leadership and lower ranks, they halted the enemies advance and then launched devastating counter-attacks that resulted in an unbelievable victory despite being massively outnumbered in men and equipment. One of the most astonishing victories in all history.

I'm not in the least surprised that you'd see the Six Day War the way you describe. You completely ignore (or perhaps don't know about) the closure of the Straits of Tiran and the Egyptian mobilisation and expelling of peace keepers. Fairly typical of you.

"Within two years of Yom Kipper Israel was forced to agree to hand back the Sinai at the negotiating table."

Yom Kippur happened in 1973. Israel agreed to hand the Sinai back in 1978. Ask a 5 yr old to explain to you why that's not 2 years. Forced? Israel had offered to hand it back in 1967 but Sadat preferred to try his hand at taking it back in war. The Israelis finally left in 1982. There's been peace with Egypt ever since.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 20 May 2021 6:07:53 PM
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mhaze,

The hatred of Jews goes back as far as ancient Greece where they were persecuted, probably for the same reasons they were driven out of many European countries during various pogroms. These same reasons have frequently been used by the West against several religious and ethnic groups as required.

It's not who they are but what they do that is the basis of my opinion of the nation - not the people.

I've never been comfortable with their support of Apartheid in South Africa where they helped train security forces or their sale of weapons to South American dictators or their refusal to admit possession of a nuclear arsenal and thus deny international inspection while demanding the same from others. I don't like it when their agents travel to other countries on forged passports for the purpose of assassination or posed as bogus Al Quaeda cells or deliberately lied about their use of WMDs.
I especially thought their medical aid to wounded ISIS members near their border was a strange move while we were at war.

Since their PM Rabin was assassinated by a right-wing extremist and brought and end to the Oslo Accord they have been ruled by aggressive Zionists with no intention of making peace but striving to achieve "Greater Israel" and sentenced the remaining Palestinians to decades of oppression and humiliation.

This event was the result of deliberate provocation, likely intended to at shore up the threatened leadership of their current corrupt leader Netanyahu.

I'm appalled at the loss of all lives but realise that Israel officially considers the lives of the families of targetted Hamas members as legitimate collateral damage.

However the targetting of two Palestinian trauma surgeons plus the bombing of all access roads to their main Hospital is a barbaric act by any standard.

Maybe we should be concerned by the idea that there may be between 100 and 300 Australian citizens currently serving in the IDF (FOI requests for current numbers are being refused) and may have been participating in acts of brutality and potential war crimes.
Posted by rache, Thursday, 20 May 2021 10:55:03 PM
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