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Jerusalem: a flashpoint for conflict or microcosm of peace : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 14/5/2021

There will be no Israeli-Palestinian peace unless East Jerusalem becomes the capital of a Palestinian state while the city remains united.

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Hey shadowminister,

Whats despicable?
- I'm not the one dropping bombs on women, kids and the elderly.
If you think my opinions are despicable then what do you think about people that actually do commit such acts?
- I suppose they're angels in your book.
Come down from heaven above to bring peace and goodwill to the world?
Huh?

What have I said that's untrue?
What's your problem 'despicable' exactly? Please explain this.

How dare I not love the killing?
Should I be dancing around with glee at the 'culling of the natives'?

http://youtu.be/Fihmc_tzwLk
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 21 May 2021 4:17:41 AM
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SteeleRedux's posts clearly demonstrate why peace doesn't get a foot in the door there !
Posted by individual, Friday, 21 May 2021 7:28:55 AM
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AC

"Truth is Israel is probably glad one of their own copped it" is despicable.

I gather that you consider Hamas despicable as they are the ones firing anti-personnel rockets at civilians.

Israel is at attempting to prevent civilian casualties.

SR,

Israel did not start the 6-day war, Nasser was beating the drums of war for months before it started. Egypt Jordan and Syria had built up their armies and had deployed them on Israel's border. The trigger for the war was not even Egypt expelling UN peacekeepers, the first act of war was Egypt blockading Israel's southern port of Eilat.

So SR don't lie.

Secondly, in spite of Egypt's early success in the surprise attack on Yom Kippur Israel quickly rallied and destroyed the Syrian 1200 strong tank force before turning east and smashing the Egyptian force and crossing the Suez to occupy most of the east bank.

Israel was not forced to relinquish the Sinai, it did so in exchange for a peace treaty with Egypt and recognition of Israels right to exist. An act that saw Sadat assassinated.

Syria refused and has now permanently lost the Golan heights.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 21 May 2021 1:11:23 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Lol. It is at it reads ya mug.

Nothing from you acknowledging the terrible toll of Palestinian women and children slaughtered in the streets of Gaza. It appears your hatred knows no bounds.

The timeline of conflict goes something like this.

Two years after the first Arab-Israeli conflict cause by the declaration of independence by Israel, during which Israeli B17 Flying Fortress bombers bombed Cairo and Egypt ultimately closes the Strait of Tiran.

1956 Israel invades Egypt after Egypt had nationalised the Suez canal. France and the UK pile on in too after all that is what nations built on colonisation do. The Straits are reopened as part of the negotiations.

1967 “On 5 June, Israel launched a series of airstrikes against Egyptian airfields, initially claiming that it had been attacked by Egypt, but later stating that the airstrikes were preemptive. The aftermath saw Israeli occupation of the Golan Heights, Gaza and West Bank.

The Yom Kipper war was an attempt by Egypt and Syria with expedition forces from other countries to regain the territory lost in 1967.

The Israelis were more than just aware of the impending hostilities but had discussed plans to pre-emptively strike on that very day although that is not what the general narrative would have us believe.

“Prime Minister Golda Meir, Minister of Defense Moshe Dayan and Chief of General Staff David Elazar met at 8:05 am on the morning of Yom Kippur, six hours before the war began. Dayan opened the meeting by arguing that war was not a certainty. Elazar then presented his argument in favor of a pre-emptive attack against Syrian airfields at noon, Syrian missiles at 3:00 pm, and Syrian ground forces at 5:00 pm: "When the presentations were done, the prime minister hemmed uncertainly for a few moments but then came to a clear decision. There would be no preemptive strike. Israel might be needing American assistance soon and it was imperative that it would not be blamed for starting the war. 'If we strike first, we won't get help from anybody,' she said." “

shadowminister,

So a blockade is an act of war?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 21 May 2021 3:51:51 PM
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Did any of you ever watch Hogan's Heroes?
I'm sure you all have.

Do you know who Hogan and his men were.
- Prisoners of war locked behind a fence - That's the Palestinians.
- Who are Israel then? - Well that would be the Germans who keep them locked up.

You say the Palestinians can put an end to all this?
What do you want them to do 'Join the Germans' or 'Just Leave'?

Well the Palestinians can't join the Jews even if they wanted to.
Did you expect Hogan and his men to join the Germans? - but I digress

- Apart from the Biblical problem that Jews were commanded by God to make war against the Amelekites (Palestinians)
You also have the issue of Jewish bloodlines.
- They're not going to breed with them, it's a part of their religious apartheid nature.

Hogan and his men could leave, but they stayed to gather intel on the Germans.
But the Palestinians can't leave. where are they going to go?

Tell me how many her would make friends with people that want you all dead?
Any hands?
Let see a show of hands people.
I can be sarcastic because no-ones going to put their hand up anyway, right?

"I gather that you consider Hamas despicable as they are the ones firing anti-personnel rockets at civilians."
- Well to answer that question.

Did you know US congress had to ok a 736 million sale of JDAM to Israel this past week?
http://youtu.be/tSsNiM6Nq9M

Well the thing I find despicable is that we really don't have a fair fight. You've got a bully picking on a weakling. Maybe that's just the Aussie in me. I suppose once upon a time Aussies might've seen the Jews as the weaklings in a different fight, and supported them which helped create this mess...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 May 2021 1:50:53 AM
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[Cont]

If your asking me if it's despicable that the Palestinians don't also have smart bombs and state of the art technology like US troops new night vision set-ups then I say yes.

We should give the Palestinians equal weaponry, and communication technology.

You know what I think 'all the people that want to do killing for what they believe, we should seperate them arm them all and give them equal ammo, then they can go out in the paddock and kill each other.
The problem will be solved and the rest of us can all just get on with it without this crap.

- I could maybe tolerate a fair fight.
But if you want me to get excited over shooting fish in a barrel, then I think your all insane.

My friend bought a puppy and complained when it pissed on his carpet.
I said a puppys going to do what a puppy does.
He's having problems with his son, who hanging with the wrong crowd.
I said if you create a dysfunctional kid, then he's going to act dysfunctional.

As for this mess.
If you lock people up and treat them like animals, then they will act like animals.
I would too, but thankfully I'm not in that situation.

I'm guessing you didn't bother watching the video I posted?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 May 2021 1:58:36 AM
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