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I am an Aboriginal woman, and my people are hurting : Comments

By Samantha Cooper, published 4/6/2020

Reconciliation Week is exhausting at the best of times. Now more than ever, we are bombarded with tidal waves of racism and ignorance.

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Yes plantagenet , I think Mr LEGO posts from afar, possibly somewhere in Africa. But we are a multicultural lot here and all nationalities are welcome. These small number of "intelligent" ultra-right guys are all the same, come in hard, don't deviate from the message, ridicule the opposing view as nonsense peddled by those with sinister ulterior motives, or just the gullible uninformed being led by the nose. Then they proceed to present unsubstantiated nonsense as fact, always claiming to be well read, and well versed, in all things to do with race. LEGO claims to have been delivering the message for 40 years, but when I asked him, how and to whom, he claimed up on the subject. Screaming in a basement at party meetings to a handful of nutters and true believers is hardly delivering the message.

The majority of the ultra-right activists, the unintelligent, the bovver boy types, have a different approach in delivering the message, they just want to smash heads, egged on by the ultra-right Intelligentsia. Hitler had Ernst Rohm and his SA to help deliver his message. Unfortunately for Rohm when he become too big a threat to Hitler he had to be deposed of.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 6:25:38 AM
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LEGO, you say; "I love reading and I am very widey read. I like to keep informed, and I do my homework on the topics I choose to give my opinions on." Very good, I to have read much over the years on this subject, but unlike you with an open mind. Unlike you I have lived with brown people here in Australia and still do, and in Aotearoa and Fiji. Slept in their houses, talked at length with them on many things, socialised together, many I call friend, some are relatives. You talk of minority, how would you fit in being the odd man out in a group of 500? Not knowing the customs, not knowing the language, not knowing the people. How would you get on with them for say 4 days, sleeping in one big room with 200 of them, sharing the washing facilities, eating with them 3 times a day, something you can't get from books. I have some first nation blood, but I don't identity as Aboriginal.Truthfully, do you have one black friend, or brown fried, or Muslim friend, I suspect being such a cut above, you wouldn't lower yourself to their level.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 6:29:21 AM
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To Paul1411

The degree to which any group of people will accept others from out groups into their group, depends upon many things. First, some cultures (eg Islam, National Socialist Germany) are extremely ethno/cultural/religious centric and are taught from childhood that out group members are inferior, and must be either ethnically cleansed or forcibly integrated into their culture and religion.

More tolerant cultures will accept out groups provided that the out group (even from different races) have most cultural values (what is generally considered right and wrong behaviour) very similar to their own, and similar IQ levels. For example, in white western society, Asians and whites get on quite well together Black African people with similar high IQ's to Asians and whites, do the same. There was a suburb in LA which was planned as a suburb for African/American professionals (doctors, lawyers, dentists, engineers) which was so peaceful and law abiding that white and even Asian professionals began to move in. Race is usually no problem at all among the upper classes where IQ levels are high and very similar.

But even within mono racial and monocultural populations, IQ groups form "classes" in every human society. Birds of a feather just keep sticking together, regardless of what quixotic dreams the leftist ideologues have for a classless, race blind society.

Where racial differences are highlighted by very different IQ levels, the out groups with low IQ's are simply going to form an intergenerational welfare class, and a more or a less professional criminal class, who will prey on the more successful classes that are usually racially dissimilar.

If out groups have very different cultural values and low IQ's to the host group, highlighted by very obvious racial differences, integration is impossible. Since cultural values are the glue which keeps societies together, serious social strife will be inevitable. This is greatly exacerbated if the out group has a rising population proportion, either through birth rate differentials or immigration. The result is always, race riots, civil strife, calls for separatism (into mono cultural and mono racial states), and even civil war.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 9:30:00 AM
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Thanks Paul

Further on Trump the Hitler whisperer and "DT" LOSING the election, a sage buddy comments:

In his last days Hitler retreated into the fantasyland of Nazi (ie, his) ideology, ruthlessly applying diseased Social Darwinist ideas.

In March 1945 Hitler told Albert Speer that "if the war is lost the people will be lost also... it is best for us to destroy even [what the German people will need for elemental survival]. For the nation has proved to be the weaker, and the future belongs solely to the stronger eastern nation."

Hitler capped this with a truly ridiculous statement - even in a Social Darwinist fantasy context - that "only those [Germans] who are inferior will remain after this struggle, for the good have already been killed." Curious indeed: one might expect that the "inferior" wd die and the "good" survive, but who am I to argue with the authority?

I remain optimistic re DT's (Delirious Trump's) re-election - ie, he won't be.

Nice to see that the progressive (ie. Democrat) side of politics in the US has begun to learn a few dirty tricks. Lovely strike on the Tulsa rally. Apparently Trump is incandescent with rage.

Meanwhile Biden's quietly on message and projecting an air of steadiness, reliability and competence - everything Donald "Delirious" Trump's not.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 11:42:10 AM
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Pete,

I agree with you and the vast majority that Trumpf is incompetent, a danger to the US (and the world), utterly egocentric, and technically a moron, but apart from that and the fact that he is a sleaze, a philanderer and a rich bully, perhaps a psychopath too, he may not be a bad bloke. Nah.

I don't have much time for Biden either, he's also a sleaze, a forty-year time-server. He doesn't deserve the nomination, or the presidency. I wish that the Democrats would prevail upon Michelle Obama to stand, she'd be a shoo-in. Ah, the Obama days, when there were almost no scandals, and the White House was never known for incompetence.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:07:42 PM
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Hi Joe

Yes Biden wouldn't be up to "standard" in any other major democracy than the low-candidate-standard US.

But with Herr Trump the only alternative, Yanks could do the least damage to the world by voting Biden.

The bookies money is on Kamala Harris being chosen by Biden as VP. She looks sound http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris and more than likely will be needed to step in.

Cheers

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:32:57 PM
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