Arnav, are you really ok with using Donald Trump's mouth as a source of info?
I wouldn't trust that self-interested business man as far as I could throw him!

Do you really think anyone wants to start a war with Russia?
What could they possibly gain from that apart from massive loss of life, and quite probably a nuclear war that could destroy the planet?

Suseonline reckons that only a small minority of Islamists hate the West and engage in terrorism.

She wants to be nice to the rest of them. Problem is Suse, how can you make that distinction BEFORE the bombs go off and the AK-47s open up on a football crowd?

Prevention is better than cure: keep them all out. Nobody asked Australian voters and taxpayers to approve such an immigration program in the first place.

The naïve notion that "if we're nice to them, they'll be nice to us" is ludicrous. The Islamist plotters now being rooted out here in Australia on a regular basis by police and security services will NEVER like us. They despise us and will always do so. They loathe the very concept of personal, religious and social freedoms. The terrorist plots will not stop and will grow more frequent the more of them we allow in, even though, really, truly, THEY are the victims.

Haven't you been paying any attention to what has happened in the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, the US, Indonesia, etc., etc., etc., Suse? Why would anything be different here? There have been more than 20,000 Islamist terrorist attacks since 9/11. See any sort of pattern there, Suse?

And by the way Suse, just for the record, tell us what you admire so much about Islamists. Would it be FGM and their treatment of women generally? Their treatment of gays? Their tolerance of other religions? The number of Nobel Prizes they've won? Their "peaceful" attitudes?

Get over yourself Suse. Too much moral posturing.

Suse,
You continue to misrepresent those that dislike the ideology and cultural practices of Islam as 'racist' because you think such accusations have impact. You lack logical argument for accepting Islam ideology into our society. You cry 'racism' because you have no counter argument.

Islam is not a race, you are quite wrong in implying such.

I strongly dislike Islam and race has absolutely nothing to do with it.
I certainly believe Australia would be far better off if we stopped any further muslim immigration and refugee intake.

Calwest you seem to know what the majority of Muslims think? Do you spend much time with ANY Muslims at all, like I do? I doubt it, and yet you are some expert apparently. Get over yourself Calwest and start thinking outside the scary square.

Banjo don't make me laugh. Of course I know that Islam is a religion, and as you know, I am not a fan of any religion or imaginary God at all. However, when people talk about Muslims, you know damn well that they are talking about Middle Eastern, Indonesian, Malaysian, Pakistani people and countries etc.

Lumping all these people together and suggesting they are all potential terrorists and we don't want immigration etc of these people in Australia IS racism, whether you want to dress it up as 'saving Australia from terrorism' or not.
I have seen your posts for a long time now Banjo and I know how you think. You are most definitely racist...

JoM,
You said, "All the surveys conducted of late reveal that somewhere between 15 and 25% of adult Muslims support violent action either offensively or in defence of Islam"

Can you give a link to or show one such survey please? I have been trying to find one as I have seen that quote before.

Yes, they do deserve a fair go, but in order to get such a fair go they should ditch their religion because its their religion that's the problem, not them.

They need to understand that this is Australia and as such has no place for any religion that harbors such hatred to other mankind.

Any immigrant who is invited here must respect our ways, otherwise they should not come.