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Peace loving Australian Muslims deserve a ‘fair go’! : Comments

By Aqeel Choudhry, published 24/12/2015

The peaceful, loyal and law-abiding Australian Muslims deserve a 'fair go'. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a perfect example as victim of this over generalisation.

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Radical faith drives suicide bombers to wreak havoc in the far corners of the planet. Radical faith drives shooters to kill innocent people in a workplace around the corner. Radical preachers exacerbate differences of opinion about abortion, marriage, and end-of-life issues, setting communities against each other.

Fundamentalists of all stripes — Christian, Muslim, Jewish — have at least one thing in common: They think they are right, and everyone else is wrong. They restrict rather than enhance individual rights. And we know from history that such efforts can breed genocidal conflicts and wars.

As an atheist I believe that the problem goes deeper than radicalism. I take the position that the problem is…religion itself.

Which raises the question: Does true religious freedom encompass freedom from religion?
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Sunday, 27 December 2015 2:16:25 PM
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Quoting from an article found on the web:

"Overseas experience has shown the often
tragic consequences that occur when societies are
unable or unwilling to integrate newcomers,
especially in situations in which some minority
groups find themselves restricted by barriers
of prejudice or culture from enjoying the same
opportunities as the host society."

"Our institutions are now required to respond to the
needs of a culturally and linguistically diverse
society. As some experts have pointed out - it is
in the interests of all Australians that the 3 tiers of
government - Commonwealth, State, and Local intervene where
necessary to manage our diversity in the interests
of cultural tolerance, social justice
and economic efficiency and for that we need to plan."

My apologies -I've misplaced the article .I shall try to find it
and give it in a later post.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 27 December 2015 2:23:12 PM
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Suseonline "Arnav, are you really ok with using Donald Trump's mouth as a source of info?
I wouldn't trust that self-interested business man as far as I could throw him!"

Trump is a lot better than the fascist lying Clintons, George Bush, Dick Cheney and most of Congress bought by the Central Bankers. At least Trump does not want war with Russia and China.

Under the lie of 911 Bush brought in the Patriot Act and many other signing orders followed that destroyed the US Constitution. John Howard here brought in sedition laws whereby we can be charged without trial for terrorism
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 27 December 2015 2:43:28 PM
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Suse, why don't you try dealing with the facts instead of posturing?

We have numerous facts to discuss: 20,000 Islamist terrorist attacks since 9/11; the hostile invasion of Europe in the past year (the latest of many over the centuries); the growing number of Islamist terrorist plots uncovered by Australian police and security services; the lack of marketable employment skills by many Muslims who arrive here with no recognised qualifications, criminal histories (such as Man Haran Monis), and social and cultural attitudes which are simply incompatible with any Western society - no, not every Islamist immigrant, but too many nevertheless.

It is well noted that you have failed to answer any of the issues raised in my previous post - such as telling us which Islamist cultural features you admire most: FGM (that's female genital mutilation, Suse, and it's happening here in Australia), stoning of women for adultery, beheading and mutilation of those convicted of what we would regard as fairly minor crimes, ensuring girls get little or no education, and so on. But feel free to make up your own list.

And when you've done that, tell us why any Australian should be exposed to the risks inherent in Islamic immigration, which, as we know only too well, has already resulted in a largely unassimilable sub-culture that largely depends on monies governments take from taxpayers and which nurtures extremists who have already attempted to kill Australians for the crime of being Australian.

Facts, Suse, facts. Much more interesting than your constant hand-wringing.
Posted by calwest, Sunday, 27 December 2015 2:45:25 PM
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For those who don't get it ,Prof Michel Chossudovsky sums it up. http://www.globalresearch.ca/war-terrorism-and-the-global-economic-crisis-in-2015-ninety-nine-interrelated-concepts/5497812

48 While President Obama may uphold freedom of religion, the US inquisitorial social order has institutionalized patterns of discrimination, prejudice and xenophobia directed against Muslims.

49. Ethnic profiling applies to travel, the job market, access to education and social services and more generally to social status and mobility.

50. The wave of xenophobia directed against Muslims which has swept across Western Europe is tied into geopolitics. It is part of a military agenda. It consists in demonizing the enemy.

51. Muslim countries possess more than 60 percent of total oil reserves. In contrast, the United States of America has barely 2 percent of total oil reserves. Iraq has five times more oil than the United States.

52. A large share of the World’s oil lies in Muslim lands. The objective of the US led war is to steal and appropriate those oil reserves. And to achieve this objective, these countries are targeted: war, covert ops, economic destabilization, regime change.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 27 December 2015 3:26:59 PM
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You would think there would be some questioning of lunar green-left world views following the awful events in Paris, but no, they are destined to remain in the same rut.

Fox circles around and around but always ends up blaming the generous, accepting host nations. -For views and behaviour that are regarded as completely normal and expected by Islamists and by the 'moderates' who would see Jihadists as exemplars of the teaching of Islam. You can bet that so-called 'moderates' would not be showing a cold shoulder to the mother and family of a Jihardist, but treating them with respect and reverence, but why?

For Suseonline, it is all water off a duck's back as she endlessly regurgitates the immature, undergraduate activist bumpf from the Green Left rag. While Suseonline poses as a hand-wringing leftist and a radical feminist, the basis of her 'ideology' is her revulsion of feeling against 'White' Aussie men and Australia's inheritance from the UK, and against the RC church, but again, only the men. There is nothing humanitarian about that!

Suseonline supports the foolish belief and tactic of the radical feminists and green left activists alike, namely that the 'enemy of her enemy is always her friend'. Any sensible person would see that as ridiculous, cutting off her nose to spite her face.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 27 December 2015 3:53:01 PM
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