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Peace loving Australian Muslims deserve a ‘fair go’! : Comments

By Aqeel Choudhry, published 24/12/2015

The peaceful, loyal and law-abiding Australian Muslims deserve a 'fair go'. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a perfect example as victim of this over generalisation.

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What exactly is meant by a ‘fair go’ in this context. Is this just an attempt to tug at the heart strings of all dinkum Australians who pride themselves on giving everyone a ‘fair go’?

A ‘fair go’ is not a human value that is peculiar to Australians. Most people around the world value fairness and equality in dealing with others. If Muslims are being hard done by then they should appeal to the human quality of justice. They should ask all Australians to treat then with justice because it is the human thing to do. They should present their arguments reasonably and logically to those who are responsible for administering justice on behalf of the whole of society. If their arguments for justice stack up then they have a right as members of this society to see them carried through.

Appealing to the sentiment of a ‘fair go’ suggests that their arguments do not stack up and that they are trying to get what they want by manipulating that sentiment. They are trying to manipulate other Australians into giving them what they want rather than appealing to reason. Non-Muslims in Australia should not allow this to happen and should stand up to such manipulation. They should tell Muslims who claim injustice to go to through the justice system like every other citizen has to. They do not deserve special treatment. If they do not like how we resolve questions of injustice in this country then they are free to leave. Our justice system is our ‘fair go’ and it is not based on sentiment.

Muslims who resort to such tactics to get what they want are not rejected because they are Muslims but because they are dishonest in dealing with their fellow countrymen and seek to get what they want by placing themselves above the justice system. No one should be above the justice system.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 24 December 2015 9:52:40 AM
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Society has already been divided due to the very thought that had been instilled within the minds of people that politics is lineed with religion. People then tend to generalise religion and all its followers as a whole, because of something a single person has committed in the name of the religion. Muslims all around Australia deserve a fair go and should only be judged according to their personal character rather than their religion. This is what everyone needs to understand in order to reunite this divided society. Aqeel Ibrahim is definitely correct in my perspective and this message needs more circulation for everyone to read.
Lastly Islam means peace.
Posted by Waqar, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:28:59 AM
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It is wonderful that some Muslims have formed organisations dedicated to peace.

The dilemma is how Muslims , followers of teachings of the Prophet who spread his message by war, can be dedicated to peace.
Islamists argue it is the duty of all Muslims to carry the faith forward by war, as did the Prophet.

The Koran specifically authorises the killing of adult male war prisoners who will not convert- straight translation , not "interpretation".

Islamists argue that, in cutting off the heads of helpless prisoners they were doing exactly what the Prophet did to adult male prisoners of a Jewish tribe he conquered (he then he sold the women and children into slavery). That is also a matter of history gleaned from straight translation of Arabic texts (hadiths)- not "interpretation".

Christ's teachings were be perverted by incorporation of the Old Testament and a ruling cabal of monarchs and Church leaders perverted the Christian faith to an instrument of the powerful to control the minds of the powerless, but reason has prevailed since the Enlightenment.

The Enlightenment began in England, in the first year of the reign of George 1, when a judge, instead of passing the death sentence, adjourned a case where a jury had found a woman guilty of witchcraft and successfully petitioned George 1 for a pardon.

That brought to an end, in England at least ,centuries of at least one example of shocking injustice. It was Pope Innocent V111 who issued the edict in 1484 that Exodus 20: 18 be enforced ("Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live").

Just as Christians have abandoned and disavowed whole sections of the Old Testament , if Muslims do not want to adhere to a belief system inconsistent with the progress of the human race, they must patently disavow whole segments of the principles contained in their texts. Just mumbling nonsense about "misinterpretation" is not enough.

Young naďve minds will be subject to manipulation by bloodthirsty psychopaths until peace lovers among the Muslim community take that fundamental need to let reason prevail
Posted by Old Man, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:36:15 AM
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"Muslims all around Australia deserve a fair go and should only be judged according to their personal character rather than their religion."

It is fair enough to judge someone by his personal character in his religious belief that the supreme moral exemplar was a man who participated in armed robbery, mass murder, slavery, rape, and torture, and who preached that it's morally okay to kill people for disagreeing with his religious opinion.

It is absurd offensively dishonest nonsense to say that Islam means peace.

Deal with this:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:40:10 AM
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ISIS is carrying out the true word of Islam. All these 'moderate' Muslims need to wake up and stop identifying themselves with Islam if they wish to lead normal lives in Australia or anywhere else. Islam is the religion of violence and hate.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:43:35 AM
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It's strange that although Muslims have chat forums ( which deter discussion about the churches) there seem to be none engaging in public forums about their faith. Not even an imam or mufti comes on to have a reasoned comment. Maybe reason is not a Koranic thing.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 24 December 2015 12:18:44 PM
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