Dear Banjo,

I believe the survey you're looking for was referred to
in an article by Paul Sheehan in The Age
newspaper "These Crimes have everything to do with
Islam." Look it up.

However, as far as moderate Muslims in this country are
concerned the following article explains their position:

http://fair.org.au/community/challenges-facing-Australian-muslims/

Banjo, you do go on.
Naturally I don't like any of the crimes you mentioned, and they are illegal here in Australia, so, like all criminals, anyone practicing them here will be punished.

What 'invasion' of Europe are you talking about? Do you mean the Syrian refugees flooding into Europe? I don't call that an invasion.
Aren't you being a little dramatic?
And aren't we a long way from Europe anyway?

Somewhat of a scaredy cat aren't you...

Forum etiquette tells us that we should
avoid personal attacks, and abuse.
We should respect other posters and if you
disagree with them - explain why.

Unfortunately not everyone is capable of
doing this on this forum as we can see.

There are some who keep harping on about the
same thing.

These are people who do not represent the
values most Australians share.

To most of us:

It doesn't matter where you come from,
being an Australian means wanting
to be "mates" with everyone. Harbouring no ill-will
towards others, wanting to live in peace and
harmony (with each other and nature) to be free and
independent, lending a helping hand when needed,
and treating everyone fairly.

Fox,

You and Suseonline remain in your ruts of years past and present and doubtless 2016 will be the same.

It is timely to point out that neither of you ever feel the need to counter -with facts and evidence- the opinions expressed by posters with different views to your own.

Honestly, how many times have other posters challenged your spin that it is the well-intentioned, generous people of host nations are responsible for the bad behaviour and crimes of Islamists? Yet here you bounce up again unabashed to say the same thing, as though you had never had your con-trick and spin dispelled before.

Of all of the disgraceful wobblies perpetrated by spin merchants and propagandists, blaming the victim/s and casting the offender/s as the victim instead would have to be the foulest trick in their arsenal.

Islamists do what they do wherever they are, irrespective of how well they are treated (which they only take as submission anyhow). Islam is a totalitarian ideology. It is very doubtful if it could ever be reformed in the lifetime of any here and is it even possible?

Federal governments have failed the Australian people by allowing leftists to put the diversity cart ahead of the safety and good of the Australian people. Immigration should be taking account of risks and providing robust risk treatments, not the 'open door' policy that you and the green left would have and did have under Rudd.

Why have the feds been giving preference to people who avowedly do not intend to assimilate at all and present high risks of introducing toxic political systems and traditions? It is a buyer's market and there are thousands of suitable people with skills that are in short supply. Yet some of them, many, are being knocked back to put 'diversity' first.

However this and more has all been put to you by many others before and you always duck and spin the same old spin. The very last thing that leftists want is to be held accountable for the negative consequences of their social meddling.

Suseonline, your silence is deafening. I guess that's because after you've told us all what a wonderfully tolerant, open minded person you are, you have nothing of value to say.

By the way, if the great majority of Islamists are just damn nice, moderate people, why has no imam or mufti issued a fatwah against Islamic State?

Surely a "moderate" imam or mufti would think beheadings, bombings, suicide missions, mass rapes, slavery, crucifixions, et al would be way over the top? Poor old Salman Rushdie got one for writing a bloody book.

otb,

A few facts for you:

I stated quite clearly earlier that the events
in Paris did have a devastating effect on me.

The same as I've stated many times on this
forum - my horror at the actions of extremists
and fundamentalists. I've also stated quite
clearly that everyone should live and abide by the laws
of this country.

Also, I did not blame the "host country" as you
accuse me of doing.

The quotes I gave in this
instance were given
by the Department of Social Services from an
article dealing with "Settlement, Multiculturalism, and a Better
Australia."

You are entitled to your opinions - and what you think of me
is something over which I have no control. However kindly
try sticking
to facts and not make inferences, assumptions, or baseless
claims about myself or Suse - people you do not know,
or are ever likely to know.