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Peace loving Australian Muslims deserve a ‘fair go’! : Comments

By Aqeel Choudhry, published 24/12/2015

The peaceful, loyal and law-abiding Australian Muslims deserve a 'fair go'. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a perfect example as victim of this over generalisation.

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Foxy, Australia is one of the most successful multicultural rural countries in the world, so we already know the way to get along.

As long as people abide by our rules and laws then it doesn't matter what religion (or no religion) people follow.
I would say we would have a more peaceful society if we could outlaw hate groups who spread their racist, false nationalist rubbish to the gullible low IQ rabble who follow them.
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 25 December 2015 10:54:59 PM
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' Can anyone tell us what can be done in this
country to ensure that people of all religious
persuasions could live peacefully side by side?'

Hi Foxy I don't think it is possible. I wish it were and by and large until Islamic immigration increased it did work. Unfortunately non religious people are also among the most violent. At recent demonstrations the Socialist alliance have been shown to be the biggest bigots and most violent. The Getup group certainly have not helped matters by often brainwashing and pushing misinformation. I have a very genuine concern for my children and grandchildren.

The biggest mistake we assume is that everyone wants peace. I assure you they don't. The vast majority do while a growing number don't. Banning Islamic immigration would minimise what is only going to get uglier. Believe me I will be happy to be proved wrong. A leper does not change its spots.
Posted by runner, Friday, 25 December 2015 11:01:49 PM
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Runner, can't you see that banning all Muslim immigration to Australia will only serve to upset Muslim countries even further, and also alienate the Muslim people who already live in Australia or were born here?

Here we have your good friend Babette on another thread getting upset about how Christians are persecuted in Muslim countries, and yet here you are suggesting we do something similar here in Australia to our Muslim residents.

How included and welcome will the current Muslim citizens of Australia feel if we say no more Muslims can come here because we think all Muslims are terrorists?
If they weren't radicalized before such a racist move was made, at least some of them sure as hell would be after that!
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 26 December 2015 2:46:06 AM
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It is interesting to read the various opinions on this
forum and the judgements being made.

Islam is one of the world's major religions. It claims
the allegiance of approx. a fifth of the entire
human population. Yet I wonder how many of us really
know that much about it.

Over the past decades religious fervour has erupted in
the Islamic world in general and in the Middle East
in particular. To many Westerners Islam conjures up
images of women behind veils, adulterers being stoned, of
thieves having their hands cut off, of public floggings and
executions, of martyrdom in holy wars. Extremists and
terrorists simply add to this image and fear, distrust
begins to spread. The silence of the Muslim communities
doesn't help. Also the media doesn't help - the media
tends to print what's newsworthy.

What does the future hold? People need to feel safe.
All people. If we end up fighting with each other - then
the extremists win. Of course our laws have to be enforced.
That is a given. I certainly don't have the answers to this
complicated problem. However, I do feel that sweeping
generalisations should be kept to one side on all fronts.
We should at least try sticking to the facts - hard as they
may be to decipher.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 26 December 2015 5:40:19 AM
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Suse,
Prove that it's successful. I'd argue that such a statement is combination of myth and wishful thinking since no data exists to prove or disprove that particular Liberal talking point.

Foxy.
Ethnocentrism and inter ethnic class solidarity are the key, the new interpretation of multiculturalism will be based on negotiation not acommodation.
Peace is a two way street, so for our part Nationalists would stand down Australian forces from all overseas deployments and withdraw to observer status in the U.N. Immigration would be reduced to a around ten thousand a year and preference would be given to technical experts and scientists recruited from the most advanced economies of the world.
On the home front we'd remove all government support for religious groups including NGO's, interfaith initiatives and schools and make religious training a user pays arrangement, the Catholic education system and other large providers would be immediately expropriated by the state so if parents wanted a religious education for their kids they'd have to raise funds to maintain the school and pay fees, otherwise send their kids to secular mainstream schools.
The elite school system would be re worked to admit only the brightest kids regardless of their parents wealth with a quota for poor but high achieving kids who'd be awarded full government scholarships.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 26 December 2015 5:50:16 AM
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JoM
How much does median / mean affect the result? The % in blogs are expressed the same way. Iraq 87% Ireland 92%.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 26 December 2015 5:55:49 AM
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