Phanto I reckon you are on the right road, I believe that love is a predominantly female item. Passed down by mothers in all ages.

Friendship I say is more important, If you can’t be friends what hope have you got. Some last 50-60 years and some last 7-10 years.

An overspend on mortgages because they want the best and now, must put untold pressure on the marriage specially when there is nothing left for anything else for the next 35 years. All of which contributes to DV to evolve and fester.

Money in the household, is only reliable while two people are working. When one has to stop working, the mortgage has to be reconfigured, and then all those payments already paid have gone out the window, and they are back at scratch. More reason for agitation and DV.

I Can see DV being centered around the family home. With big Mortgages, replacement white goods, and no money. They are trapped by their own inexperience, and not willing to do without until it can be afforded.

Probably multiple credit cards, which are full with the latest must haves, because the neighbor has got one. It is all a recipe for conflict and DV.

People are being murdered as a result of DV, It is going to be hard to see an outcome to prevent DV. It certainly is not an option to blame either side. As DV is centered around and in the home, so whatever the conflict is about it is between two persons.

Is forced separation an option. No matter what it is no doubt it will cost more on the social security to have any sort of remedy for DV.

Rhian, ALL of the sources you quote are left wing or feminist & ALL of them lie, obfuscate & hide the real data. on the few occasions when real raw data is available women are more violent, abusive & more involved in infanticide than men.

which "real raw data" are those, exactly?

Not raw data but a paper on the issues around DV research and gender symmetry from one of the leading family conflict researchers - http://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implications_for_Prevention_and_Treatment

Also another link to a paper I may have already linked to on this thread which discusses research into the underlying assumptions of the Duluth Model http://www.researchgate.net/publication/15503361_Patriarchy_and_wife_assault_The_ecological_fallacy

Another paper discussing the case against the gender paradigm
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/257066719_Case_Against_the_gender_paradigm_2

A lot of resources and references at http://domesticviolenceresearch.org/pages/12_page_findings.htm including summaries, studies and some links on available texts etc. For those trying to get a handle on why some of us are so convinced that the gendered paradigm of DV is false and detrimental to a serious reduction in DV rates that material is I believe a good start. Chase from there to fact check what you don't believe is adequately justified in the material.

On the opposing side this appears to be a starting point to the case (although I disagree with the conclusions) http://www.adfvc.unsw.edu.au/PDF%20files/IssuesPaper_25.pdf , those promoting a highly gendered version of DV are welcome to post better links, not trying to set up a strawman if that page is not right.

R0bert

phanto

'If there is a women’s movement or genuine feminism then it should be using all its powers of persuasion to debunk this myth and to stop women from entering domestic relationships at all. They should be telling young girls and women that the risk is too great and the first person you should love is yourself.'

It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people are about feminism! Yet those most ignorant of feminism think they actually know all about it.

Hell-O-oo! This is EXACTLY what feminists have been telling young women for decades. Feminists keep telling women till they're blue in the face to look after themselves and their own financial independence. Feminists constantly warn women against the romance trap.

This is precisely why feminists are constantly told they hate men. This is precisely why the rest of society chooses to portray them as man-haters.

The irony is that at least 90% of the feminists I've known over the decades are happily (or at least contentedly) married - and the reason they're happily married is because they put their financial and emotional self-worth first. All the unhappily married women I know - and I know many, MANY unhappily married women - are traditional non-feminist women.

doog

'It is nothing new, that men require sex more than women.'

No, it certainly is nothing new ... but it's a big fat patriarchal lie. For one thing, it's mathematically impossible for men to 'require' more sex than women, because women are the people they 'require' sex with.

The myth of the male-permanently-on-the-make is a power construct, designed to maintain a sense of male entitlement to women's bodies, and to nurture a sense of sexual passivity in women. The myth of men needing a lot more sex than women is all about power, not libido.

The main reason a lot of women get turned off sex is because most men are selfish lovers who make little to no effort to please a woman in bed or learn anything about the basics of female anatomy. The culture just doesn't permit men to be caring, generous or monogamous lovers - indeed, it brainwashes men virtually from birth to be the very opposite.