//Your steadfast - but all too common - belief that men are always on the make and that women simply 'provide' sex to men is an entrenched cultural belief system//

I haven't expressed any belief like that, Killa, because I don't hold any beliefs like that. But nice attempt at a strawman there.

//that is routinely muddled with voodoo evolutionary 'science' that assumes it's all down to hormones.//

Medical science is not voodoo, Killa. You sound like anti-vaxxer.

//The basis of this belief system is that women have no real sex drive of their own//

Of course they have a sex drive. It's just study after study shows that it isn't as strong as males' (on average).

//In fact, it's the basis of what all those pesky feminists mean when they talk about 'rape culture'.//

Yes, of course Killa. Preferring actual medical science to nonsense pseudo-science that claims hormones don't influence behaviour makes me complicit in rape. Great argument. I can see you've studied at the Runner Academy of Logic.

//If you are wondering why women don't hang around too long on these gender threads, perhaps it's because they feel too exasperated and disgusted by men who seem to feel that virtually every problem that exists between men and women is the result of women not 'providing' men with the sex that they feel so entitled to.//

Or maybe they just don't like being called out when they advance arguments with as much scientific footing as young-earth creationism.

Each time I read or hear about Domestic Violence I am disgusted to find that those who talk the most, know the least.

Domestic Violence in every case is about one person taking control of another person and by their behaviour forcing the victim to act in ways they would not contemplate for themselves.

Somehow all the people who discuss this issue appear to have never had a conversation with someone who has actually lived in a Domestic Violence situation.

I lived it for five years and eventually escaped and started the healing process. The perpetrator in my situation was respectful, charming and considered, by those who did not share the same house, as being a fine upstanding citizen.

If politicians and others in powerful positions want to know about Domestic Violence come and ask the people who have lived with it, instead of pushing their ideas of what it is or perhaps might be.

http://ncis.anu.edu.au/_lib/doc/MD_Press_Club_110603.pdf

Take particular notice of the correlation between the increase in violence and the introduction of alcohol into the community.

David

Hilily "Domestic Violence in every case is about one person taking control of another person and by their behaviour forcing the victim to act in ways they would not contemplate for themselves."

Thats not what the evidence shows. Causes of DV vary a lot, in some cases it's about someone trying to control another, in others it's really poor anger management, it's often ties in with other issues (mental health, unemployment, substance abuse and other factors).

That's not to negate your experience but it dangerous to assume our own experience reflect the whole.

R0bert

The quantitative data partially supports both positions. Women are twice as likely to self report having been a victim of DV. However, at least a third of DV is aimed at men and cannot be neatly explained by the main theory of DV.

As Killarney says, some DV can be described as self defence, but assuming that women are more likely to act in self defence seems to be based on sexism.

We need to llok at more qualitative research to fully understand what is going on.

Killarney "Your steadfast - but all too common - belief that men are always on the make and that women simply 'provide' sex to men is an entrenched cultural belief system, that is routinely muddled with voodoo evolutionary 'science' that assumes it's all down to hormones."

It's hilarious that you castigate evolutionary science when feminism is based in the metaphysical tenets of Foucault and other post-structuralists. Theories of power that feminists always rant about are not empirical claims, but are based on the metaphysical views put down by Nietzsche and Foucault. It's unprovable that all bad acts by men, as moralised by feminists, is one of power.