Lego,
It's interesting that as our society has "progressed" the punishments for rape have grown lighter and less severe, in England capital punishment for rape was not practiced after 1841 and abolished in 1861 with the passage of the Crimes Against The Person act. Nowadays the average sentence for rape in the U.K is eight years and in Australia four years. This is one more example of progressive cognitive dissonance, how can they support Islamic colonisation of their "progressive" society when the fundamentals of both are completely at odds?

Bazz,
No I don't know that it was Lenin, as far as I know the term "useful idiots" is a cold war era term and back in the day Stalin had more actual agents in the West than useful idiots, people like Alger Hiss and Kim Philby for example. Trotsky came up with the term "Racism", I know that much, he used it as a justification for the Russian civil war.

JoM, we don't have Islamic Law here in Australia, only Australian Law.

Don't call me a liar.
It is well known that some men of all cultures and religions believe women 'ask' to be raped by daring to dress 'provocatively' or daring to walk alone where and when they like in our community. Some on this forum believe this, and you know it.

I never said we should integrate into Muslim society at all, but rather they should integrate into ours if they are to live in Australia.
They are here now, and many have had their families living in Australia for generations.

It is time all you guys got over the fact they are Australian and they have to abide by the laws and punishments of this country, just like you or I.
Get over it and move on.

Suzie OL,
I have not heard anyone on here say the woman is to blame for rape !
The problem is many are told, and believe, that our laws are wrong and
only obey them if there is a risk of being caught.
The need for the Middle Eastern Crime Squad shows that.
How many police stations have been shot up other than Lakemba ?

A relative is a prison officer, correction, Corrective Services Officer
and what he tells me is that they are never sorry for what they have
done until the parole hearings are due.

Frankly, I think you need a reality check.

Suse,

"They don't need to do this if they don't want to, as making Gay marriage legal will involve the state, and religious organizations will make up their own minds if they want to marry gay people in their church."

That s until the homosexual industry goes after the churches (religions) to force them to marry homosexual couples; they will do this by crying discrimination and a consequent denial of justice.

OK Susionline, let's examine your logic.

Your premise is, that since every society and culture has men who think that women should be raped, then that makes every society and culture equal. You did not say that outright, but that is your clear implication.

Wrong, Wrong. Wrong.

Western societies may criticise women who walk around at night unescorted and drunk, wearing scanty clothes, and making themselves vulnerable to rape by sexual predators. But if she does get raped she is still a victim and the attacker is a criminal.

That does not equate to the Muslim position that women have no right at all to walk around by themselves at night unescorted and drunk, and wearing scanty clothes. And if she does get raped then she is the criminal, and the man is not a victim, he is just doing what comes naturally. Not only that, but since men have a duty to punish women who behave immorally, he is right to rape her and it is her fault. As Sheik al Hilaly said, "if you leave meat out and a cat eats it, who's fault is it?".

Now, if you turn off your TV and think real hard, you may begin to figure out that there is a very wide difference between the Western view of rape, and the Muslim view. And that is why there have been rape epidemics involving Muslim men in every western country where large numbers of Muslims have been imported. My advice to you, Susie, is do not get into a taxi cab in Sydney late at night drunk, wearing a micro mini, if the taxi driver is a Muslim.

Most people shun other people who think it is OK to rape women who behave in a certain way. People shun those who have values which are diametrically opposed to their own. Which is why Muslim men get "marginalised." And they are "marginalised" because their own evil religion demands social separation from infidels anyway

LEGO, if you turn off your telly and have a real think, you may consider the fact that not all Muslims think alike.
Like all religions and cultures, Muslim people have differing views on the interpretation of their holy book.
We do have mad idiots in our society who take the bible literally too.

Not all Muslim people think like the fundamentalists you describe.
I don't think that people like you will ever believe the truth though, because that would get in the way of the blind hatred of a whole group of people for the actions of a few.