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Integration is the open secret to deradicalization : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 4/5/2015

It appears that the determining factor behind this phenomenon is the absence of integration, by choice or design, of young Muslims into the mainstream of their respective Western countries.

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Jay,

"If people really feel they need a spiritual component to their lives they can take up Christianity, Buddhism or one of the other faiths."

Sort of like Lebanese Christians??
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 4 May 2015 6:25:29 PM
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ttbn,
Well exactly, most "Muslims" in quotaion marks aren't particularly religious, given that surveys of Christians and Jews in the U.S reveal that as many as 50% of regular church/temple attendees don't even believe in God you could assume the same for Muslims.
Australians have almost given up religion and even twenty years ago any leftist openly defending religion in the way they do now would have been laughed at. Even the Australians who still practice a religion hold values which are completely incompatible with Islam, are Imams going to solemnise same sex marriages when it becomes legal and allow female clergy as the progressive Christian and Jewish congregations will?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 4 May 2015 6:30:27 PM
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JoM -"Australians have almost given up religion and even twenty years ago any leftist openly defending religion in the way they do now would have been laughed at."

Aren't the current crop of very right leaning pollies, in Government now, especially our very religious PM and Treasurer, defending religion often?

"Even the Australians who still practice a religion hold values which are completely incompatible with Islam, are Imams going to solemnise same sex marriages when it becomes legal and allow female clergy as the progressive Christian and Jewish congregations will?"

They don't need to do this if they don't want to, as making Gay marriage legal will involve the state, and religious organizations will make up their own minds if they want to marry gay people in their church.
I think we can safely assume that the Catholic Church will never allow gay marriage or female priests in their Christian church, just to name one.
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 12:37:30 AM
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Muslims immigrating into western countries should not assimilate, westerners must integrate with Muslims. What a load of BS.

The minority tail does not wag the majority dog. If Muslims wish to immigrate into a western country, the onus is upon them to moderate their stupid and dangerous religion to co exist with others in the modern world.

This they will never do because it is against their religion. The Muslim religions insists upon social separation between Muslims and infidels. And the Muslim religion can never co exist as a minority religion, it must seek to dominate al others, even if it is just within a small regional area. And when it does that, you had better not be a minority infidel in "their" Muslim area.

It is the religion, stupid.

The problem is, that Muslims are so dangerous and backward that they should never have been allowed to immigrate into advanced countries where they will cause nothing but trouble.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 3:51:05 AM
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“Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.”

– Dr. Unni Wikan, Professor of Social Anthropology at the University of Oslo
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 3:57:49 AM
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LEGO, it isn't just some Muslim men who believe women ask to be raped, that is a fairly universal concept for some men of all religious persuasions unfortunately.

I believe that the fact that we already have Muslim people living in our society means that we have to try and integrate the ones who feel marginalized, or face the consequences.
We have no other choice other than having to deal with radical behaviours from the minority....
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 10:37:33 AM
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