Sarah, as a male I am use to loosing debates, discussions, arguements with your gender.

In my experience, I have had what I said, turned around and used against me, or being accused of something that comes out of the left field that throws me off balance, and I think, where did that come from?

Phanto
Please see my post on Monday, 11 May 2015 4:41:30 PM. If you substantiate your allegations, I will then defend myself. Your slanderous comments about my integrity remind me of the personal attacks against Gillian Triggs.

I consider personal opinions about others’ integrity irrelevant and a distraction from discussion about the issues. I note with interest that both The Australian Bar Association and Law Council of Australia agree with me:
“The Australian Bar Association and Law Council of Australia agree that personal attacks deflect attention from the very serious findings of the report”

RObert
Many women agree that current feminism in Australia has been hijacked by white middle class women. Anyone who's been around for the past 25 years, as I have, hears echoes in current debates of the feminist "sex wars" of the 1980s. These debates return us to the tired old model of two opposing genders: man=masculine=aggressive versus woman=feminine=passive. These debates were unhelpful in the 1980s and are equally unhelpful now. They ignore the wealth of feminist theory as well as the scholarship on the intersections between sexism, racism and class produced over the past few decades.

Wolly B
Discussions are not about winning or losing. They are about coming to the table with an open mind and sharing ideas

A point of clarification:

I consider personal opinions about others’ integrity irrelevant unless, of course, they can be substantiated.

Domestic violence crisis, sexual assault crisis…forevermore there will be these crises as long as there are women’s organisations wanting taxpayer funding and whilst there are compliant champions of change thinking its chivalrous to peddle the propaganda generated by those organisations.

“Yes, there are victims of America’s alleged college “rape crisis.” There are the women who are actually raped — who experience among the worst of crimes and live with the psychological and sometimes physical consequences for the rest of their lives. But there are also other victims, people whose lives are ruined by false accusations, with reputations destroyed in the quest to prove a larger narrative — that America’s college campuses are uniquely dangerous places for American women. Three recently filed lawsuits show the other side of the “rape crisis,” how the media glosses over ambiguity to advance an agenda, creating heroes out of potential liars and villains out of the possibly innocent. I say “potential” and “possible” because in the real world, ambiguity is common and clarity is rare. But its difficult to create a crisis out of confusion, so agenda-driven “journalists” manufacture clarity, no matter the cost.”

Read more at: : http://www.nationalreview.com/article/418319/three-recent-lawsuits-challenge-rape-crisis-storyline-david-french

Sarah, "These debates were unhelpful in the 1980s and are equally unhelpful now." I would like to see an end to that approach to gender however there are still plenty of feminists milking that stuff for all it's worth.

I don't believe it's valid to expect men to remain silent in the face of the the sexist tripe that passes for feminist views and comment from some quarters.

R0bert

Out of curiosity, could a 'male champion' ever qualify as a male feminist or simply, a feminist?

Or does the absence of a vagina rule that out and he is doomed to be nothing more than a compliant tool (double entendre intended) forever? Are the feminists still 'dissing' the trans-women as a lower caste and still uniquely advantaged by being born 'male'?

Feminist 'issues' that many millions of taxpayers' money have been squandered on for decades. Now we are informed the money was all wasted (on those knees-ups at the Sheraton?) and 'male champions' (say what?!) are required.

Those tickets on the gravy train enjoyed by that feminist elite of educated middle class women have cost the taxpayer $millions per each. In lieu of such things as better town and transport planning that would have benefited all women (and the community) regardless of their social and educational standing and chosen pathways in life.

Still they whine, demanding the led-up to seats on private company and government agency boards to top off whole lifetimes riding the gravy train in academia and as public bureaucrats.

'Male champions of change'? What a laugh, today I was in a motor workshop where women apprentice mechanics would be welcomed to enjoy the pay and conditions (there is a cold draft to keep that complexion pink). Tow truck operators work twelve hour days for $60,000+ pa and their employers would champion women to don the overalls and rigger gloves. All mechanically assisted these days and not beyond the slightest frame.

You go, Grrrls! Feminist dinos with higher Degrees in Self Entitlement from the previous Millenium. Any wonder young women (and young men) taxpayers are fed up with carrying that negging, nagging lot. Those educated middle class feminists are victims, you know.