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Male champions of change : Comments

By Sarah Russell, published 24/4/2015

The aim of 'Male Champions of Change' is for men in positions of power to advance gender equality. Let's hope they have more luck than women have had in that task.

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Still they whine, demanding the LEG-UP to seats on private company and government agency boards to top off whole lifetimes riding the gravy train in academia and as public bureaucrats.

Bears repeating, even if to correct a mistype.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 18 May 2015 6:34:56 PM
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Still they whine, demanding the LEG-UP to seats on private company and government agency boards to top off whole lifetimes riding the gravy train in academia and as public bureaucrats.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 18 May 2015 6:34:56 PM

Wish I could post comments about my CEO, but that would be equivalent to committing suicide.
Posted by Wolly B, Monday, 18 May 2015 7:58:10 PM
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http://m.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/what-the-coroners-court-report-reveals-about-domestic-violence-20150517-gh3qhj.html

Will anyone believe Coroners reports?
Worth a try.

Unless we address why some men feel so threatened by their partners leaving them that they feel their only way out is to kill someone they profess to live, we will never stop the domestic violence in our communities.
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 2:21:21 AM
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Sarah

‘These debates return us to the tired old model of two opposing genders: man=masculine=aggressive versus woman=feminine=passive. These debates were unhelpful in the 1980s and are equally unhelpful now.’

Unhelpful? In what way?

Virtually all online forums are dominated by men (masculine=aggressive). This forum is dominated by at leasr a 5:1 majority of men. And the miniscule number of women have all but left the discussion. I’m sure that quite a few women ‘lurk’ but don’t contribute.

When I have participated on online forums that allow private correspondence between commenters, I have received many private emails from women and pro-feminist men that claim that rational discussion on gender issues is futile. There is something about feminist arguments that triggers irrational and bigoted anger. The consensus is that life is too short to keep bashing your head against the proverbial brick wall.

Women=feminine=passive is not a feminist theory. It’s reality. Women cannot compete with the overwhelming numbers of aggressive, threatened male superiority, which manifests itself on forums such as this. The men here express arguments that THEY are discriminated against, while ignoring the all too obvious facts that show how much women are still disadvantaged by the current, traditional system. Many people – both men and women – are seeking to change this.

Women who contribute to online forums such as this end up having to be PASSIVE to keep the peace (either by pandering to the men’s anger or by leaving the discussion) – as women have always had to do, because the dominant male status quo leaves them little room to do otherwise.

I know this is a massive insult to you. You are doing your best to engage with the arguments of the overwhelming number of ‘disposesed’ and angry men here. But at the end of the day, are you really changing their minds?
Posted by Killarney, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 2:35:42 AM
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Physical abuse
Verbal abuse
Sexual abuse
Financial abuse
Emotional/psychological abuse
Spiritual abuse

pushing or shoving causing NO injury

pushing or shoving causing injury (eg bruising)

hitting, slapping or punching causing NO injury

hitting, slapping or punching causing injury

kicking

pulling your hair

attempted strangulation

using an object to harm or hit you, please specify what

Unless we address why some men feel so threatened by their partners leaving them that they feel their only way out is to kill someone they profess to live, we will never stop the domestic violence in our communities.
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 2:21:21 AM

Separation is also a key indicator into who will be committing suicide or attempting to commit suicide for both males and females.

It would be interesting for researchers to actually dig deeper into the lives of the perpetrators of spousal/partner murders to see how many of the perpetrators have issues surrounding alcohol and drug abuse, mental illness, or acquired brain injury.

It is also possible that in the elderly, dementia may also be a contributing factor.

Also we need to look at the dynamics in the relationship, and not get shut down by being accused of 'blaming the victim'. Things like emotional/psychological abuse don't leave bruises or abrasions.

Erin Pizzey in her discussion paper talks about the family terrorist,
http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-10.htm
Posted by Wolly B, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 6:26:13 AM
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http://www.hrtwarming.com/woman-realizes-that-shes-been-accidentally-abusing-her-husband-this-whole-time-wow/

This is an absolute gem.
Posted by Wolly B, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 7:10:06 AM
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