Killarney

Your post was not insulting – I think it hit the nail on the head.

I’ve just re-read my earlier post and it was not clear. The point I was trying to make was there is an abundance of feminist theory on the intersections between sexism, racism and class produced over the past few decades. I think it is unhelpful when feminism is conceptualised as “Men versus Woman”. There are many men and women who are disempowered in our current social and economic system.

Many people – both men and women – recognise that we live in a patriarchal and capitalist society that engenders unfairness and, as you say, many men and women are seeking to change this.

I suspect the word patriarchy will put some in a spin. I hope not.

I am not trying to change anyone’s mind. I recognise an ideologue when I see one – and know that ideologues are not interested in the evidence. However, some men who have remained in this discussion have engaged with the debate, and made some interesting points.

I have heard elsewhere that many online forums are dominated by men – it has been suggested that men have more leisure time. I don’t know if that is correct, but there certainly seem to be many more men than women in this OLO discussion.

In response to your comment that “rational discussion on gender issues is futile”, perhaps you read my post on 12 May 2015 11:17:24. I agree that discussions about gender equality trigger an emotional, not rational, response. I am not sure what can be done about this except to stay calm and stay on message.

The point I was trying to make was there is an abundance of feminist theory on the intersections between sexism, racism and class produced over the past few decades. I think it is unhelpful when feminism is conceptualized as “Men versus Woman”. There are many men and women who are disempowered in our current social and economic system.

I have heard elsewhere that many online forums are dominated by men – it has been suggested that men have more leisure time. I don’t know if that is correct, but there certainly seem to be many more men than women in this OLO discussion.

Posted by Sarah Russell, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 8:34:55 AM

Very good first point.

I believe that there are internet forums where males are deliberately excluded. The other possibility is that some women are not interested in this subject and see no point in talking about.

No comprehendo "there were no cases where a woman was a domestic violence abuser who killed a male domestic violence victim"

Mr Silly Coroner...main witness dead. Naughty coroner no understand men don't report the slap or the push especially dead ones.

And talking about coroner's findings we still don't know what drove Greg Anderson crazy because coroner put suppression order over his report on the bazaar pretext of fears it would undermine the state's child protection service.

I was very interested to find out from the coroner's report how many "ex parte" domestic violence orders had been taken out against Greg Anderson over a period of 11 years, separating him from his son and if any of the allegations had been substantiated, if a handover centre was used and whether the mother had been in compliance with family court orders etc etc. Meanwhile the mother of the murdered child, Rosie Batty is free to roam around the country telling the media and other fora whatever she likes.

Killarney says: "Virtually all online forums are dominated by men (masculine=aggressive)." More rubbish from Killarney...Killarney why don't you go subscribe to the ausfem-polnet list hosted by Uni of Tasmania and wallow in the misandry there? Or considering you know so much about aggressive people in debate go and post comments on the mamamia where the talk is about aggressive female journalists, Sales, Alberci, Ferguson etc.ie feminine=aggressive

Yes indeed Roscop, the Coroners Court could be all wrong, and you know better than everyone else. You must feel humble in your own presence?

Roscop, do you think Rosie Batty is happy with the way things turned out for her?
She lost her only son...violently.
It seems it didn't matter what she or the courts did or didn't do ....Anderson still murdered his son. They should have locked him up for life long ago.

Suseonline

>"They should have locked him up for life years ago"

On what grounds should they have locked up Anderson for life years ago?... offences he had been convicted of or unsubstantiated allegations? My understanding is that he had no convictions against his name but I could be wrong on that. The coroner and Male Champion of Change, Ken Lay, would know the facts in that regard.

And for you comment:

>"It seems it didn't matter what she or the courts did or didn't do ....Anderson still murdered his son."

So you don't think what Rosie Batty and the courts did or didn't do, had any bearing on why Anderson murdered his son...that would be right he just went troppo for no reason at all...I guess there just happened to be a full moon that day.