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Male champions of change : Comments

By Sarah Russell, published 24/4/2015

The aim of 'Male Champions of Change' is for men in positions of power to advance gender equality. Let's hope they have more luck than women have had in that task.

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Phanto, your words and "opinion" disgust me because they are bereft of humanity. They are compassionless and devoid of empathy; you seek to use the personal tragedy of this person's family - two of them dead because one of them went mad - to suit your own political argument, just as those who have appointed her AotY have tried to do. I give those people just as little respect.

It is a tragedy of another sort that you need to have this pointed out to you.

If we were in the same room I wouldn't hit you, I'd ignore you and so would everybody else. You can say the things you say because you are anonymous and unaccountable. You are responded to because others do not wish to leave your disgraceful words unchallenged as written.

Wake up to yourself. How dare you accuse Suse of hiding behind me, when you don't have the guts to use your own name?
Posted by Craig Minns, Sunday, 24 May 2015 4:55:19 PM
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I've not been on line much for a few days. Craig I to am appreciating your posts. As I stated last week I have some reservations about the politics behind the Australian of the Year appointment but I don't think any of us know enough to attack the recipient based on suspicions about what may or may not have happened in the past. As someone else pointed out (Suseonline I think) concerns about the appointment should be taken up with those who made the appointment.

Found an interesting example of the insidious way sexism is added into the whole AVO issue when checking on the conditions for AVO's in Queensland.

http://www.courts.qld.gov.au/courts/magistrates-court/domestic-and-family-violence/common-questions "I am 16 years old, can I seek a protection order against my father?"

Everything else I could see on the page was gender neutral, why did that one need to be gender specific?

I had an incident a while back where my ex entered my property during work hours, I had to come home as she was refusing to leave the property and called the police as I was starting on that journey so that I had some mechanism to get her off the property without putting myself at legal risk.

She was being verbally abusive when the police arrived, had entered my property during work house, she had gone elsewhere other than the front door. The police were unwilling to assist in any way with action that would have provided some legal recourse if the behaviour is repeated.

I have little doubt that if the genders were reversed they would have found grounds to assist with at least a restraining order http://www.courts.dotag.wa.gov.au/R/restraining_orders.aspx I and my son were clearly being harassed.

I'm not convinced that for the most part AVO's and restraining orders stop the truly dangerous, they may provide further aggravation in those cases.
For the rest the police and others need to be seen to be even handed in their dealing with them, from what I've seen, heard and read that is not the case.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Sunday, 24 May 2015 9:00:22 PM
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Robert, one of the coping strategies taught during "Anger Management courses" is too remove ones self from the situation.

However as facilitators report, many men will say when they remove themselves from the situation, that the situation follows them.
Posted by Wolly B, Sunday, 24 May 2015 9:51:56 PM
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R0bert,

Another example of sexism is the proposed NSW domestic violence register (stems from Clares Law). There is only talk about women accessing the register. As a father who had young kids, before committing yourself to a new relationship, wouldn't you want to know if you were getting into relationship with another Kathleen Folbigg. Therefore women convicted of need to go onto the register as well.

"Even if the request for prior domestic violence convictions comes back with nothing, the government will put a system in place to counsel women who make a request to the register."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/nsw-domestic-violence-register-to-expose-potential-abusers/story-fni0cx12-1227362371152

No doubt the number of people on the register, their gender, no of requests etc etc, will be kept secret from the public.
Posted by Roscop, Sunday, 24 May 2015 11:20:45 PM
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Now here is a champion of change for you...Ms Aimee Nicholls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JRzDI1IIY
Posted by Roscop, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 9:17:02 AM
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#maletears

#kill all men

>Chances are, if you move in feminist circles, you will have at least >one friend who has a "Male Tears" coffee cup, "Misandrist" nameplate
>necklace, or is a regular user of hashtags and GIFs of the #maletears
> variety.

>"Ironic misandry", as Slate's Amanda Hess summarised last year,
>emerged as "a clever tactic for furthering the feminist agenda"

I find this interesting that behaviour that would be unacceptable if a male was the perpetrator, becomes acceptable behaviour when the perpetrator is a feminist.
Posted by Wolly B, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 8:28:58 PM
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