Lego,

The outcome of a rational scrutiny of your distortions of Quran is just as expected!!

I gave you two quotes from Quran (my post of the 27th) showing you that your statements were nothing but distortions of the message of Quran. And asked you to quote Quran in support of your statements

YOU FAILED TO PROVIDE A QUOTE from Quran.

Instead, you insist that:
<<the two quotes from the Koran which I have posted up, which I say proves that Islam as a very violent and dangerous religion>>

Again, you have not provided any reference of ‘your quotes’ from Quran - every sentence of Quran is quotable and verifiable.

YOU CANNOT provide a reference from Quran because these statements are NOT FROM QURAN.

But you insist that Quran says things it does not say.

This is typical of the paddlers of the misinformation.

They don’t apologise for their misquotes, like you, and then shift the subject, just like you have done.

The shifting now involves a distortion of history << Muhammad demanded that Abu Safyan become a Muslim or he would chop his head off>> (your post 27 Feb)

The statement is a lie similar to the ones that fill your post of the 26 Feb.

I draw your attention to your responsibility to provide a quote from RELIABLE references on history. Material from the hate-sites, which apparently is your data base, does not count.

Let us have the references, for a meaningful discussion or your apology for misquotes.

Loudmouth,
Your post 27 Feb. 15

<<I don't avoid, I ignore, your irrelevant questions.>>

My irrelevant questions?,
Haven’t asked you a question on the subject under discussion yet?

So, what are you avoiding/ignoring?

You are avoiding to assure me that you will answer my questions after I answer yours. Our exchange of the last few days has nothing but this fact wrapped all around it – everything is recorded, you can’t lie even if you try.

Like I said before: a simple answer from me will dismantle your childish logic in seconds. But I must have your assurance that you will answer my question(s) after I answer yours.

You lack the courage to face my questions.

Again, your idea of exchange is that you ask me questions but you don’t answer my questions.

Something basically wrong with you!!

I keep wondering:

What world do you live in?

And more importantly, what are you?

NC,
The only reliable work on Islam is the Koran, neither the Hadith nor any subsequent scholarship can contradict it nor innovate upon it and the authenticity of the Koran as the word of the almighty as given to his prophet has been a moot point for a thousand years.
It doesn't matter what academics or "haters" say or what interpretation they give to certain verses, the Sunni are the followers of Mohammed and only they can form a consensus upon how the prophet's teachings are put into practice.
So we wait and see if the Caliphate stands, no Caliphate means no malahim, no malahim no second coming, no second coming no antichrist, no antichrist no mahdi...simples.

of course NC if true to his religion knows clearly that the apparent peaceful quotes from the KOran are superceded by Mohammed's later penning.

http://www.aina.org/guesteds/20110118151407.htm

'Faced with these contradictory verses from the Quran, and instead of explaining these contradictions, Muslim theologian started looking into another mechanism to solve these contradictions. They adopted a doctrine known as "the doctrine of abrogation", a legal method that allows annulment of seemingly contradictory verses from the Quran, without deleting them from the text.'

Sorry, Mr thehypocrisy. I missed your post but will address it now.

I asked you two simple questions which you failed to answer. Your failure to answer "echoes your extremism" in that you prefer not to get nailed down on any premise that you may have to defend. Naturally, you instead referred me to a couple of boring and longwinded youtube video's which told me nothing. I don't debate against links.

I had a funny feeling you were going to pike out. I have been examining your "debating" style with other posters, which is to come on like you are the font of all knowledge who is talking to a bunch of retarded children. But you are all piiss and wind. I have dealt with characters like you before. You can't mix it in a fair stand up fight.

Now, the Koran and the Hadiths contain numerous quotes which I can post up, which clearly demonstrates that it is the very scriptures of Islam which are the problem. They clearly instruct Muslims to make war on unbelievers, "slay the Idolators", maintain social separation from non believers, humiliate non believers, cut their throats, chop off their fingers etc. etc.

Don't give me any crap about not being able to understand the Koran unless I can read 7th Century Arabic. And don't give me any crap about taking the Koran out of context. The passages I can quote are stand alone statements which clearly display why Islam is so dangerous. If you like, I will post up some quotes and you can explain to all of us how "slay the idolaters wherever you find them" is really an innocuous statement which actually means "love thy neighbour."

C'mon mate, I double dog dare you.

But I know you won't. You are just a pretentious ratbag acting out the role of the super intelligent tertiary educated seer. The last thing you want to do is to mix it with a member of the Great Unwashed who you know can stick a pin in your inflated ego.

Run rabbit, run rabbit, run, run, run.

NC: I keep wondering: What world do you live in?

A very dangerous one, caused by having moslems in Australia.

NC: And more importantly, what are you?

Thankfully, not a backward moslem.

NC : I) rfrom LEGO: <<The scriptures of the Islamic faith order believers to make war on non believers to spread Islam. True.>>
NC: II) from LEGO:<<The scriptures of Islam order believers to kill "idolaters" who will not convert to Islam. True.>>
LEGO, let me Please.
I believe everybody will agree with this interpretations of the Koran's Suras.
Ch 2 v98. Allah is an enemy to unbelievers.
Allah treats unbelievers as the "enemy."
Ch 2 v161. On unbelievers is the curse of Allah.
Allah curses unbelievers & wants to give them bad luck & harm.

Ch 2 v191. Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme.
Or, Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah's entirely.
moslems are commanded by Allah to fight & kill all unbelievers until the entire World is moslem.

Ch2 v193. . And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.
moslems are commanded by Allah to fight & kill all unbelievers until the entire World is moslem.

ch3 v118. O ye who believe! take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks; they will not fail to corrupt you.
Allah commands moslems not to make friends with unbelievers.

Ch2 v216. Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
Allah commands moslems to fight unbelievers even if you don't want to because Allah knows better than you.

Ch 8 v39. Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it.
Allah commands moslems to fight unbelievers even though they don't like to fight. No excuse.