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Saving democracy from the extremists : Comments

By Junaid Cheema, published 25/2/2015

The publication had a very un-Australian affect on the readers - comments flooded the paper's social media site vilifying Muslims, promoting hate and creating divisions amongst Australians.

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Junaid: The publication had a very un-Australian affect on the readers - comments flooded the paper's social media site vilifying Muslims, promoting hate and creating divisions amongst Australians.

As I said earlier, Any criticism of moslems is deemed hate any criticism of Australian non-believers seems to be considered by the Politically Correct, Greenies & Do-Gooders as being, OK. I find that as, not being given a fair go.

Junaid: an article titled "Face reality the west is at war with Islam".

I dispute that. I believe that, "Islam is at war with the West, " & has been since 637 AD. It is the very Testament of Islam to be at war with, non-believers.

Junaid: an en vogue trend which seems to associate everything Islamic with everything anti-western and thereby everything un-Australian.

It is not "en vogue" at all The statement is very true.

Junaid: This is a recurring theme in which the popular narrative is starting to promote hate, disenfranchising people and sowing the seeds of discord in society.

This is what Islam is doing to Australia. There was never this much discord in Australia before the arrival of moslems en mass. There were no threats of Terrorist attacks or attacks prior to their arrival. Who are threatening these Terrorist attack, Greeks, Yugoslavs, Italians, the British, who happen to be mostly Christian. Chinese, Vietnamese, who happen to be Christian & Buddhist. Indian, Who are mostly Christian & Hindu. No. People of Middle Eastern origin who just happen to be moslem, Yes.
Are we disenfranchising any of these people? No. Are they disenfranchising Australians? Only one group & they happen to be moslem.

Junaid: Is hate speech free-speech when the targets are a particular group?

Free speech by non-moslems is considered "hate speech" apparently. Free speech by moslems seems to be considered to be Ok. Once again, "a fair go, " is being rorted by moslems & their apologists.
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Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 2:29:54 PM
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Junaid: Respected sources such as Spielberg International cite, self proclaimed Islamists kill 8 times more Muslims than non muslims, making muslims the greatest 'victims' of terror.
Yet, there are people like yegiba & his ilk that lay the blame, for any killing, of any moslems on the West. Even if the killings were done by fellow moslems. Therefore it is their right to defend Islam & attack the West anywhere they please, by any means.

Junaid: Perhaps raw figures from Europol and the FBI database, concluding well over 90% of terror attacks on western soil have nothing to do with Islam,

This figure is oft used by the Politically Correct, Greenies & Do-Gooders to soften the effects that Islam is having on the ordinary people in the street. They say it is a "Lone Wolf" attack. It's just that their seems to be so many of these "Lone Wolf," attack that the ordinary person in the street is starting to wake up to the fact that they are having the wool pulled over their eyes.

Junaid: Associating ISIS with Islam and making Islam the anti-thesis of the West and Australia, is also non-violent extremism.
No. ISIS associates it's self with Islam. It claims to be the voice of real Islam. Even a casual reading of the Koran & their other books explaining the Koran will give the reader that Islam regards the West as the enemy of Allah & therefore The West must be exterminated. Their Book exclaims that Islam is the only rightful Religion & Shar'a Law is the only rightful Law. All else is to be eliminated by all means possible. So called Moderate moslems are only moderate while they are a minority in any region. Once they become the majority they will become Fanatics & impose their Religion & Laws on the people of that region regardless of those peoples wishes.
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Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 2:30:55 PM
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Junaid: Doesn't associating ISIS with Islam and labelling Islam as the antithesis of the West devoid young Muslims of meaning in Australia and push the disenfranchised to the terrorist cause?

No. Islam has done this by its own teaching in their Mosques & Madras's in Australia. The Imam's deny that they do this in the News, But, any watching of 4 Corners, Insight or other programmes show the number of adherents to violent Jihad there are amongst ordinary moslems.

.Junaid: Xenophobia is uncharacteristic of a nation forged by brave immigrants, it is uncharacteristic of the true Australian.

True. But the Xenophobia is coming directly from the moslem population & their attitude to Australian Values & Customs. Australians, at the moment are only at the stage of , "WTF going on." Australians have not , in general woken up to the fact that we are being played for fools by these people who do not believe in a "fair go." They only believe in Islam. They only believe in a fair go for moslems, not non-moslems.

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Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 2:31:54 PM
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Craig
Why do you say it's specious reasoning, to reason that Muslims must either consider Mohammed to be a good moral example, or not?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 3:11:54 PM
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Even driving a forklift, one of the most basic of tasks, requires completion of a week long course costing $1000 dollars. Oh, boo hoo

If the person who desires to be a fork lift driver is not employed and is receiving the benefit, Centrelink will cover the cost of the training program. Are you suggesting that spending a week to learn the job skills is too much to ask? "Wow, I wanted a job that I didn't know how to do, and those bastards expected me to do a week's training course. How unfair is that? I'm going to join ISIS instead."

So what the issue... the radicalised layabouts excuse for not finding employment is 'no senior management positions were available' therefore ISIS is a better option. Send them all overseas on a one way journey if they think ISIS is so great.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 3:26:33 PM
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The article's premises are all wrong. It's unaustralian (though the word is strictly meaningless) not to be racist and xenophobic, that is if we are to go by popular opinion.
The idea that we're,
"a people of community, of equal rights and believers in a fair go" is patent nonsense perpetuated by colloquial history and pc propaganda.
We're actually a nation of mean-spirited ethnocentrists and racists, by and large.
Posted by Squeers, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 3:41:01 PM
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